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166623.104 in reply to 166623.95
Date: 12/29/2010 5:05:46 AM
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Look at my roster and check Blaise Baets and Bosma

Played almoust every game, made a hughe differance in the competition and are still regular starters while my entire strategy is based upon those players. Baets and Blaise

Dont get me wrong, maybe they played not every game (due to minute management) but they are the key players of my team.
And look at the 4th division......no key players there?

In my eyes, and i played pro basketball in real life for 13 years, every team has a key player, even in the lower leagues and thats whats wrong with this. In your system you created there just looking at the players who played alot and have a high salary but they dont look at the players who are winning the games.

For example out of real life: Take John Paxon Chicago Bulls nummer 5 shooting guard, No one almoust remembers him but he shot the Bulls into 3 different Play offs before Michael Jordan finished it off in those play offs

Because off the fact you just made some big shots the key players and not the real important ones i really have to decline this improvement. Even my player from the Dutch National Team <21 is a role player???

Please explain cause i cant see the relevance in this anymore

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166623.107 in reply to 166623.105
Date: 12/29/2010 1:07:42 PM
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Your missing my point

Key player is perfect word for it, but i dont see them as you see them
Every team has a key player, thats what i meant

Chicago Bulls had Michael Jorden
Suns had Charles Barkely
Celtics had LArry Bird
Lakers had MAgic Johnson

In football
Barcelona have Messi
Real Madrid have a portugese so.b.

My point point, how bad it can be, is that every team, no mather what league their in have all got one key player on who the strategy is build. And i want to see that back.....

Even if that means that your player is terrible, aslong as it is your KEY player, the one from your team where you build on, then this should be reflected in the Role

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166623.108 in reply to 166623.106
Date: 12/29/2010 1:50:01 PM
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Is defense taken into account? I realize its quite a bit different, at least from a GE point of view, as on defense you dont have anyone 'running' the defense, per se.


If it is offence only, it might be quite interesting indication. But I dont see the point to look at it if I dont see average played minutes at the same time. If I have to click to get that information, they are together anyway on main page of the player, therefore I couldnt see the point in indicating offences itself.

Maybe that rating could be combination of both. Like his overall offence effectivity or something.

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166623.113 in reply to 166623.112
Date: 12/29/2010 4:45:34 PM
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So, then some apparent fallacies in the method:

1) he's started the one league game that mattered.
2) he's played crucial cup games
3) he's started the PO game (perhaps roles haven't updated?)

If these things don't matter, I think it'll be hard to come up with a reliable measure.


Exactly - with the fact minutes have to be spread between league (then playoffs) and cup , you will never create a yardstick of how valuable or meaningful a player is just on league minutes.

I think the feature has merit to evolve if linked with the fan survey but only if all games are taken into consideration.

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