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Player Salaries Floor depends of TV contract.
In 1st league PSF = 120% x TV, in 2nd league PSF = 100% x TV, etc.
So if TV contract in small countries is smaller, it means that Salaries Floor is smaller too. Therefore teams can earn more money.
It's important for new clubs and tanking clubs, and even for clubs in B3, because nobody say that they have to have salaries over 800k.
Merchandise depends of players in club so debate about merchandise in small and big countries is useless.

Don't be sorry, just try harder to understand that people have a different point of view to you & if they do it doesn't make them wrong. This post is titled "Am I missing something" I was asking a question not making a statement. Crazyeye answered the question & then you & me compared Economies & which point you went quite, until others posted then you jumped back in. That says a lot.
Again, it's not about small country big country, it's about B3 & the player I had signed not making a difference in Merchandise. The rest of this is where others took it, I entertained it, as it might have lead to stuff I didn't know, but all I hear is "be happy your in the B3 most teams don't get there" & "99% of people don't play it". So what? I am there & I want to play it, so the question stood as to what am I missing?
I have made comments based on what I think about your Countries Division, but I don't know for sure & you do the same not knowing for sure on mine. How can any of what we talk about be Truth? & as for the "doesn't know how to count" statement, grow up & have an adult conversation without the "Play ground" insults.

Expense are the same as other teams competeing for the B3 title & I have never said it's easy for anyone, least of all for the larger countries.
Nope, again never said "Change anything" if fact I believe I said that they don't get much wrong in this game as far as I'm concerned, but if you read all the posts you'd already know that.
I go along with your point of "Real life hardships & effort are rewarded" again point of the post "Am I missing something" as this thread as gone off topic I have responed to different comments, but once your in the top competition isn't it normal to look at it to see how you can be successful? That's what I did & made my moves, but didn't see the money follow it & that's why I started this.
Here are my Finances & this is my best week since Ive played this game, so it would be a good gage:

Player Salaries: $ 771 813 Attendance: $ 587 829
Staff Salaries: $ 43 482 Merchandise: $ 85 942
Scouting: $ 0 TV Contract: $ 164 640
Total: $ 815 295 Total: $ 838 411

It's not about how easy it is in my country to win a Title or Cup, it's about the stage after that when you get to play others that have done the same. With all due respect, it's not about how many teams in Spain will ever win DivI or the Cup. I understand it's harder in the larger countries to compete, but not the answer to the question I asked way back when.

I would welcome the competition, it seems know one believes me on that but I seriously would".
So say you do manage to do this & you do win your Cup or Title, wouldn't you want the playing field to be at least somewhat fair when you go to play there? If teams your up against have about $200k p\w in income more than you, how would you ever compete? You can always think "I'm happy to win my Div or Cup" which is fair enough. I'm not. I not saying to win the B3 I'm saying to be at a point where I can be a team no one would really want to play if they could avoid it.

Attendance is also smaller hence why player salary is smaller.
Average salary of teams that moved past Table stage of B3 last season was about $850k, not including VS & Ball Bouncers who loaded up with crazy teams.

Merchandise depends of players in club so debate about merchandise in small and big countries is useless.

FINALLY, we agree on something!!!

Your Attendance - is by 77k higher than average in my league. And Your attendance would be 2nd the best in my league (one team, who is freshly after promotion has higher incomes from tickets). And please note that You have so good attendance although You had bad results (You never won league, even conference in club history). If You make Your results better then attendance should be better too.

Your Merchandise - is under average in my league. But there is simple solution - buy better players and merchandise will be higher. And I see no one of Your player is from Your country, try to use more players from Your country. I know that in BB we have less players from Cymru than from Poland. But I have in my roster 7 players born in my club, so it's possible. Then merchandise will be better. If You make Your results better then merchandise shoud be better too.

Only Your TV Contract is under average and You can do nothing to increase it quickly (in long term it is possible) But it isn't problem because Your other advantages are higher than this only disadvantage.

And the most important thing - Your Total Incomes - are by 16k higher than average in my league. It is fact. And You have higher total incomes without effort and with bad results in club.

As I said, it is my best week ever, so if this where to continue, it would prove a point especially as this team was lower down in the Rankings.
I found that out this season & then remembered it being stated a couple of seasons back, that the National players would improve that, I plan to adjust next season.
I don't have that many bad results, granted. I'm starting to think that it's the win streak that boosts the Attendance & carries over from the previous season.

Last edited by ClipCap at 8/20/2011 7:32:21 PM

Yes, but you are once and again saying that domestic league is not your issue, that you are speaking about B3 only, that you want to have more options in that comeptition, I want to say you that you can´t separate one for another. You can´t take the best of every world and make a mix. You can´t have the advenatages that small countries teams have and at the same time the advantages that the big countries teams have.
Like some peaople have said it´s evident small countries teams are not in a disadvantage in B3. Here in spain any team has never won that competition and for every competitive team that in some countries are here are 10 maybe, it´s noly a mathemathics question. But I would bet that never any team here will win it, although we are a lot of users. We must be the worst managers in the whole world. Or maybe is that your are wrong and that is easier to win the B3 in a small countriy.

And one more argument from us (ugly guys from big countries) ;-)
In my coutry few times Cup was won by team not playing in top division. And these teams played in B3 but they had incomes on 2nd league level. And trust me, incomes in 2nd division in big country are much lower than incomes in 1st division in small country. So how could these teams compete in B3? They had no chance...
But they didn't open new thread to prove that they needed more money.
So I have idea - because it's possible that 5th division team can win Cup in big country, so incomes in 1st league in Cymru should be the same as incomes in 5th league in big countries (because 1st league in Cymru is practically bottom level, because in lower divisions in Your country no alive team exists, only bots. It will be fair.

BTW - does somebody know or could somebody check whether/how many teams from 2nd or lower divisions play in current B3 tournament?

D3 - (51802)

D2 - (26163)
(94276)

I think that's all..

Last edited by Phantum at 8/21/2011 11:07:35 AM