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JS to 30 and capped SF ready, it's the easiest way. For sure easier than changing every week between IS/ID/RB. JS is very easy training, You can use guards or wingmen slots, player can play on three different possition, You can try to cap 6 players at the same moment. If player is small then JR trained to 15 could be helpful, if players is tall then RB to 15. It will be fine if OD and ID aren't black at beginning.

"Classic built" means only what we want so it doesn't matter. If we can train C in three skills we can train SF only in three skills as well (JS/JR/RB, or OD instead of RB or ID instead of JR). Of course we can train 4 or 5 of mentioned skills.

Negative elastic effect doesn't exist (the same as positive - both are neutral).

Nope, elastic effect isn't negative or positive. It's neutral. It looks that probably You don't know how it works.

Skill dropping for 33+ yo players isn't case in our discussion. However here You are wrong too. Skill dropping for monoskilled players isn't more negative than skill dropping of multiskilled players. Both 33 yo monoskilled C with only 3 skills and salary=400k and TSP=80 and perfect rounded SF with all skills=8 and salary=10k should achieve TSP=10 at the same time.

Explain how a 22 yo gets four OD pops in 4 weeks of training in a row then?

Elastic effect is real buddy.

I'm not sure how neutral it can get when he says elastic effect is neutral. But I can see how it can be somewhat neutral in the sense let's say OD depends on HA and vice versa. If you just train OD a lot only the elastic effect will start negatively affecting the OD training, but when you train HA afterwards it positively affects HA and neutralizes out? However, I'm not sure if the elasticity both ways are to the same degree which is why it may or may not neutralize out completely.

Remember that Handling trains at almost twice the speed of OD. So neutral in that respect is also incorrect.

Not saying elasticity is neutral, and OD/HA was just a non specific example. But we aren't talking about the base speeds of training, but instead the degree the elasticity affects the training :\

Its funny because we have kind of the same discussion in the Spanish forum, but what we are discussing is if a level 4 trainer is worth it over a level 3. How much money can you get for those players against the money you spend training them?
I think you dont understand how hard is to progress in a big country and how difficult is to make the economy work.
The teams that can afford those coach salaries (div. I, II) cant train players because they need to win games. If you pay that much money to your trainer in a lower division you cant really compete with the rest, hence, you lose more money.
BTW, the trophy I am proudest is my div 6 champ.

Its funny because we have kind of the same discussion in the Spanish forum, but what we are discussing is if a level 4 trainer is worth it over a level 3. How much money can you get for those players against the money you spend training them?
I think you dont understand how hard is to progress in a big country and how difficult is to make the economy work.
The teams that can afford those coach salaries (div. I, II) cant train players because they need to win games. If you pay that much money to your trainer in a lower division you cant really compete with the rest, hence, you lose more money.
BTW, the trophy I am proudest is my div 6 champ.

very well said. +1

Hey....a ball for the both of you!!

Well, I hear what you are saying and you made some great points.

How much money can you get for those players against the money you spend training them?

Well, IF you can get a player on the NT/U-21, you can get some nice merchandise from those players.
So I always make sure that my Trainer's salary is less than my merchandise. and I always take the sum of my Arena gate and TV money and never take my teams salaries above that. This way, Cup money is the money I bank.
I bet this formula would work in lower divisions.

I think you dont understand how hard is to progress in a big country and how difficult is to make the economy work.

Well, I don't because I live in a smaller BB nation. But on the other hand. I got thrown in the top DIV. with way better teams, so my 1st 5 seasons were try to build my arena, train, without dropping.
And what some people don't remember was that when I started in the middle of season 7, TV contracts were only 50K...so even know I didn't start in DivII, I wasn't making money and getting killed every game. Not like now when new teams come in to the top DIV. and get 200K for TV contracts.
(PS. TV contracts changed to their now sums for season 10 after the cap on the arena was announced)
My Conclusion

If a team is lucky enough to get a HOF, ATG or even a MVP with good starting skills. These are very rare, and gettin a Homegrown high POT. player that you drafted doesn't happen very often.
look at me..I finally got a HOF player in the draft last season after 16 seasons of crappy draft picks, even know he is 19...I don't care...he is my draftee.
I think that it IS worth it to buy a high level trainer and see how good you can make him. If you have to lower your team salary to do it....hey...I would..HOF homegrown draftees don't grow on trees, why not splurge a little when you do get one.