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319331.104 in reply to 319331.103
Date: 5/28/2023 6:26:42 PM
Wavy Gates
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Lol at all of this again, you guys have a good day. Alonso asked in discord and forums… you’re literally nitpicking at this point, he didn’t limit to one source. But continue on my guy.

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319331.105 in reply to 319331.104
Date: 5/28/2023 6:47:09 PM
Xeftilaikos
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Show me a thread in BB forum that Alonso or BBs told us that they are thinking about a change in training and asked users for suggestions and I will apologise. Not in discord, it is not easy for everyone to read everything there.

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319331.106 in reply to 319331.105
Date: 5/28/2023 7:12:41 PM
Wavy Gates
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Lol bruh, what do you think this thread is for??? It’s to gather opinions and feedback to this suggestion don’t be so dense. Once again have a good and kindly stop notifying about this nonsense. Reply to someone else

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319331.108 in reply to 319331.106
Date: 5/28/2023 7:54:31 PM
Xeftilaikos
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This is a thread just for plan A and plan B. Who decided that these are the best plans for a change in training? Some users in discord? Alonso and Justin? You? Me? You just dont understand that this is not the right way to make major changes in BB. There are maybe 10 good alternatives, why we have to choose just from these 2?

I am just asking from them better communication. If they are considering major changes in BB, they must find a better way to do it. Here! Not in Discord

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319331.112 in reply to 319331.87
Date: 5/29/2023 3:58:52 AM
Rajdersi
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If you are experienced one please suggest changes which suits you since you seems to don't like recent changes.

I appreciate every minute invest in this game by Justin, Alonso and others.

I don't like idea of 50 VIP managers decide in which direction BB should go.
I am not sure if managers who played 50+seasons can name 5problems of new users here- maybe they can.

Statement of experienced managers should be done by experienced.
Statement of new managers should be done by new(not experienced).

I am hoping for at least plan B. Even if it would by in season 65 or 70.
Imagine that you are training some two homegrown players and simultaneously the third one wild guy like 22OD defence monster.

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319331.114 in reply to 319331.113
Date: 5/29/2023 11:01:51 AM
Tunjevina
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Here's a remainder of how some big changes in the past 20 seasons have caused long-term issues in the game. And I'm not saying these shouldn't have been implemented, because I like them, but that the consequences of these changes should have been realized beforehand, and dealt with much prior, and much better.

1. Gym and youth trainers. They brought more interest in the training, which caused trainer prices to go up, and most importantly, they caused inflation of good players on the market, and made it much more difficult for new users whose main source of income always came from selling trainees. Their trainees aren't trained with these upgrades in the first few seasons, and are thus worse than their competition on the market.

This issue that the game became way too slow for new users was brought to BBs many times, and eventually they realized that they had to do something about it. So they improved starting arena for new users, made their initial roster better, and as far as I know, they are still contemplating further boosts, since the ones made aren't enough.

2. Psychologists. They made short rosters even easier to manage, as did the training court, because the extra time needed to train FT could all be used to train ST & GS. Because of these changes we reached the point where most B3 contenders played with only 6 players.

This issue was brought to BBs season after season, and eventually they decided to do something about it. Without asking for opinions or suggestions, they implemented “Player Exhaustion Effect”, which created a whole bunch of problems regarding training. After a huge backlash from the community, they disabled it until they were able to ”fix” it by changing the amount of minutes specific trainees required. So now if you have 3 trainees ages 19, 26 & 27, the first one needs 45min, the second one 48min, and the third one 40min. A total mess!

Furthermore, the exhaustion effect is unrealistic, because even players with the highest ST play like they are dying after 40-42min on the field. While in rl, we have players like James, Butler, Tatum, Jokic, Murray who are able to play 43-48min on a high level in their "match of the season" games.

This had to be one of the worst changes ever made in bb. Should there have been a change to fix short-roster domination? Absolutely. Should this particular change have been implemented? Absolutely not, because there had to be better choices.

3. Training courts.
A few seasons after it's implementation, 90% of players rarely ever missed a FT.

This issue was discussed for many seasons, until finally BBs decided to “fix” the new issue by changing how FT works, so the % would be more realistic.

However, we still have players with FT 30+ without even training FT once in their career, which is dumb. Whether or not that will be fixed in the future, remains to be seen.

I don't have short memory to forget issues that the changes in the past 20 seasons created, and the lingering issues from those changes still remain today. Sure, I was too harsh on Justin and Alonso, intentionally, as I think it's good to put some pressure on them, so our beloved bb wouldn't repeat the same mistakes from the past.

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