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Guess what blocking he has -> (4599819)

I am much more interested in what stamina he has.

pretty bad that you watch, his skills i guess ... it is allowed to do this? I just wanted to figure out if it possible to watch whch blocking skill he have is nearly impossible to see in the stats.
And i could tell you that other player with low stamina block also at that numbers, but with totally different skill.

So it is your buissness to spy your opponents also, because their skills could be intresting for you, too?

my best shot blocker have pretty low stamina, and lower BS and Stamina skills then all the other big mens ;)

And on the TL it look on a different way i don't know if today .. The best shot blockers with blocking +2 even have just 2 in stamina - so i hope that wasn't a ups i shouldn't say that.

Edit. ok just the best ;) The second is behind.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/15/2009 10:44:23 AM

The real problem is the distribution. There is very little correlation between the shot blocking skill and the number of blocks. If somebody with no skill in shot blocking is blocking at 0.5 - 1.0 bpg -- those with the skill are blocking only a fraction higher -- then the skill is practical worthless.

I agree that distribution is a problem. I said this a couple of posts up.

I don't think this necessarily makes the skill worthless for centers, since shot blocking on guards doesn't help you as much when the opponent is playing an inside tactic.

The reason that's its worthless, is that the amount of blocks that a player with good and bad shot blocking skill level is only marginally different. In some cases, I don't think its different at all. That means the skill is adding nothing.

In any case, shot blocking is not modeled in a particular accurate manner.


Steve
Bruins

What about 5 and 6? In my case, the 5 gets 2.2 and the 6 gets .9, and they both play inside, and around the same # of mins.

Is the 5's +2 in stamina really that much of a driver and, if so, then if you want more SB just train stamina?

edit - I have no reason to support a change, as I've made sure not to waste time training shot blocking on bigs where it doesnt appear to have much effect, while I have made sure to buy guards with good shot blocking which does appear to have quite a bit of effect.

Last edited by brian at 1/15/2009 2:51:26 PM

What about 5 and 6? In my case, the 5 gets 2.2 and the 6 gets .9, and they both play inside, and around the same # of mins.

Is the 5's +2 in stamina really that much of a driver and, if so, then if you want more SB just train stamina?

edit - I have no reason to support a change, as I've made sure not to waste time training shot blocking on bigs where it doesnt appear to have much effect, while I have made sure to buy guards with good shot blocking which does appear to have quite a bit of effect.

I only have that many centers. Here is my general observation for the guys that rotate in the PF/C positions

* high atrocious SB, strong stamina: ~0.3 blocks per 25 min
* high strong SB, strong stamina: ~1.5 blocks per 25 min
* high strong SB, mediocre stamina: ~1 block per 25 min
* high mediocre SB, mediocre stamina: ~0.6 blocks per 25 min
* awful SB, respectable stamina: ~0.4 blocks per 25 min

You can fill in the blanks, but I'd say the pattern is pretty clear.

Sorry thats too small a sample to be even taken into consideration.


Ive again gone for the rounded approach and despite having a couple of guys with low SB (not as low as high atrocious) there is a increase in bpg as I reach the guys who have Strong SB.

Team wise I am up to 7.6 blocks a game which I feel is contribuing greatly to my scores. If I knew that I could get closer to 10 blocks a game with some more training I would be tempted to train a bit and contrary to most peoples beliefs about SB being rendered worthless I would disagree overall but agree that the difference is marginal per level of SB.

But I have no idea (in fact what % of BB managers do) what the av. NBBA or major league SB stats are. I guess this for me concludes that for a casual basketball fan and player of this game we just need to know that by improving SB via training that we can expect (to a limit) that our av. bpg are likely to increase and I believe although difficult to witness this is indeed the case.

maybe BB should just reduce the impact of SB on a player's salary/potential

Why do you enter any discussion spreading your wisdom without accepting other opinions? While reading that thread it gave me a lot of useful information and some interesting statements how the BB´s intend to change the importance of SB. After you have started to talk here you interrupt any ongoing discussion about that issue. You have a very annoying style of "killing" any structural talks...