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Here's my explanation of what you're seeing:

1) All those old "mainstays" started early, accumulated team value (sometimes in ways that could never be repeated again and were 'permanent advantage'), and then stayed at or near the top until they got bored and quit. KDB is gone, BMG seems pretty gone, ChiTown seemingly took like two years off, and that's not even listing some older "mainstays" that you left off like NTH_MLB_Giants and the BBs that used to play seriously.

2) Now that BB has reached an economic equilibrium (at least my impression is that money in ~= money out in larger BB nations), there's very little encouragement to play in a "steady" way, trying your hardest in every game. You'll never win anything of note because the boom&bust strategy is superior for that, and simply treading water is expensive enough that you'll likely stall out at mediocrity unless you're exploiting the TL. Tanking until you have enough money and then making a real run at whatever your goal is is still too attractive despite the series of changes made to discourage it. Silverbacks, LMA, FTF(?) and I are all doing this as far as I can tell, though with some variations to the approach.

It's a different BB world out there. You could still probably assemble a roster of solid young players, top off their training for salary efficiency, and be a new-age NBBA mainstay in the 3rd-6th place range, but why would you want to unless you're one of the rare people who takes pride in consistency and longevity?

-- Edited to add that I think the declining playerbase might have something to do with the turnover too. As you pointed out, it seems like the only way to fill out a roster is to buy aging veterans. Tons are out there (from quitting players and teams going bot?) so they're all cheap (and trying to buy youth on the TL nowadays is a seemingly hopeless endeavor). I think that only adds to the one-and-done mentality.

Last edited by Peluin at 5/8/2014 8:43:13 PM

Visionaries gone

I always felt like his troubles were self-inflicted. He'd be doing alright with a serious team that was a threat in every game, but instead of tweaking his roster he'd get impatient and blow it all up.

In season 24, he was fighting with Funky Town for HCA, it was back and forth. His record was 13-4, and he was the current #1, he had a future Home game against Funky Town. So it was looking like he was a serious contender. And then he just gutted his team and sold everybody. Who knows, maybe Visionaries would have won a 2nd title that season.

BM, 10inch and Jason are the only teams still here who were in the NBBA in season 24.

Now I feel old. It's still weird, I don't feel like an NBBA longtimer, but this is my 8th season. So I guess I count as one now.

training to replace players is of course an impossibility -- one simply doesn't have the luxury of time.

Sooner or later I'm going to need to drop down to D.II or something to get some serious training done. I'm training 1 guy right now, but he's only 1 guy. I need 2-3 more.

It's a different BB world out there. You could still probably assemble a roster of solid young players, top off their training for salary efficiency, and be a new-age NBBA mainstay in the 3rd-6th place range, but why would you want to unless you're one of the rare people who takes pride in consistency and longevity?

This is what I struggle with. I want to be competitive and have a sustainable team year in year out. It has served me pretty well my entire career so far. I have never promoted before I was ready to be competitive at the next level. This was due to mainly training and managing my economy so when the conditions were right I could make a push.

That said, the training component is incredibly difficult in the NBBA. I am training two guys with varying levels of success and they are at least contributors, but in a couple seasons I will have to turn over 3/5 of my starters. I am not looking forward to that.

Damnit, did you have to do it right before I played you?

hey, don't sweat it, with that GS, he'll play like some $175,000 a week bum

Looks like someone plans on making a run at Delta 9. Expect me to make a countermove.*

*Do not expect me to counter.

Visionaries gone

I always felt like his troubles were self-inflicted. He'd be doing alright with a serious team that was a threat in every game, but instead of tweaking his roster he'd get impatient and blow it all up.

It was never good enough for me to be "a threat", I only accept dominance or a vague future plan of dominance.

The second thing is a lot easier to do!

Edit: In the instance you point out, I actually came to feel that Calum had made the same team as me but better. I was at the end of my training cycle and didn't think I was going to catch him so I blew it up. Then Calum won the league title three years in a row so I pretty much feel like I made the right call. I'm 3-11 against him lifetime!

Last edited by Peluin at 5/9/2014 5:56:11 PM

I'm in 1st, but it won't last. Lucky win vs. Toronto and Bullish is better than me. (not to mention a couple others)

Kudos to the teams that have been able to stay in the NBBA for multiple seasons, like 10", Tech Fouls & Rocket Science. I'm still a newbie

Looks like someone plans on making a run at Delta 9. Expect me to make a countermove.*

*Do not expect me to counter.

I put the blame for that purchase squarely on Hassan for starting all of these discussions about NBBA longevity, winning, tanking etc. j/k :) I was sitting pretty near the top of the conference with over $100K weekly + CUP but I couldn't answer a simple question ... what do I want to do here in the NBBA? Most of my roster are old guys and the rest are not that far behind. I could easy stay competitive with these guys for the next 2-3 seasons, build up a large bank account in the process and then slide down to start all over again ... but what is the fun in that? I have a small window with this group and I figure I just go all out now.

But why couldn't you make big splashes AFTER tonight? Now I'm the unfortunate first victim.