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It's not about how easy it is in my country to win a Title or Cup, it's about the stage after that when you get to play others that have done the same. With all due respect, it's not about how many teams in Spain will ever win DivI or the Cup. I understand it's harder in the larger countries to compete, but not the answer to the question I asked way back when.

I would welcome the competition, it seems know one believes me on that but I seriously would".
So say you do manage to do this & you do win your Cup or Title, wouldn't you want the playing field to be at least somewhat fair when you go to play there? If teams your up against have about $200k p\w in income more than you, how would you ever compete? You can always think "I'm happy to win my Div or Cup" which is fair enough. I'm not. I not saying to win the B3 I'm saying to be at a point where I can be a team no one would really want to play if they could avoid it.

Attendance is also smaller hence why player salary is smaller.
Average salary of teams that moved past Table stage of B3 last season was about $850k, not including VS & Ball Bouncers who loaded up with crazy teams.

Merchandise depends of players in club so debate about merchandise in small and big countries is useless.

FINALLY, we agree on something!!!

Your Attendance - is by 77k higher than average in my league. And Your attendance would be 2nd the best in my league (one team, who is freshly after promotion has higher incomes from tickets). And please note that You have so good attendance although You had bad results (You never won league, even conference in club history). If You make Your results better then attendance should be better too.

Your Merchandise - is under average in my league. But there is simple solution - buy better players and merchandise will be higher. And I see no one of Your player is from Your country, try to use more players from Your country. I know that in BB we have less players from Cymru than from Poland. But I have in my roster 7 players born in my club, so it's possible. Then merchandise will be better. If You make Your results better then merchandise shoud be better too.

Only Your TV Contract is under average and You can do nothing to increase it quickly (in long term it is possible) But it isn't problem because Your other advantages are higher than this only disadvantage.

And the most important thing - Your Total Incomes - are by 16k higher than average in my league. It is fact. And You have higher total incomes without effort and with bad results in club.

As I said, it is my best week ever, so if this where to continue, it would prove a point especially as this team was lower down in the Rankings.
I found that out this season & then remembered it being stated a couple of seasons back, that the National players would improve that, I plan to adjust next season.
I don't have that many bad results, granted. I'm starting to think that it's the win streak that boosts the Attendance & carries over from the previous season.

Last edited by ClipCap at 8/20/2011 7:32:21 PM

Yes, but you are once and again saying that domestic league is not your issue, that you are speaking about B3 only, that you want to have more options in that comeptition, I want to say you that you can´t separate one for another. You can´t take the best of every world and make a mix. You can´t have the advenatages that small countries teams have and at the same time the advantages that the big countries teams have.
Like some peaople have said it´s evident small countries teams are not in a disadvantage in B3. Here in spain any team has never won that competition and for every competitive team that in some countries are here are 10 maybe, it´s noly a mathemathics question. But I would bet that never any team here will win it, although we are a lot of users. We must be the worst managers in the whole world. Or maybe is that your are wrong and that is easier to win the B3 in a small countriy.

And one more argument from us (ugly guys from big countries) ;-)
In my coutry few times Cup was won by team not playing in top division. And these teams played in B3 but they had incomes on 2nd league level. And trust me, incomes in 2nd division in big country are much lower than incomes in 1st division in small country. So how could these teams compete in B3? They had no chance...
But they didn't open new thread to prove that they needed more money.
So I have idea - because it's possible that 5th division team can win Cup in big country, so incomes in 1st league in Cymru should be the same as incomes in 5th league in big countries (because 1st league in Cymru is practically bottom level, because in lower divisions in Your country no alive team exists, only bots. It will be fair.

BTW - does somebody know or could somebody check whether/how many teams from 2nd or lower divisions play in current B3 tournament?

D3 - (51802)

D2 - (26163)
(94276)

I think that's all..

Last edited by Phantum at 8/21/2011 11:07:35 AM

Granted, Div 2 income is a lot lower than Div 1, but my argument is for Teams in DivI, not II. If I was in the DivII & won the Cup I would be happy at that, as I wouldn't be looking for that again next season. In DivI I have a chance to get back next season hence the looking for consistency.
As for team in 5th division winning Cup, I haven't looked, but I would almost gurantee no one has done that, so that's kind of a null point.
Thanks Ugly guy ;)

but my argument is for Teams in DivI, not II.

No, Your arguments were for B3 competition, not for league or cup competition. Now You changed Your arguments.

If I was in the DivII & won the Cup I would be happy

What is difference to win cup if You are in 1st league instead of in 2nd league? You don't want to talk about good arguments for whole game, You want to talk about arguments good only for You.
If You have less incomes than other team in B3 - it's unfair for You. But if other team in B3 has less incomes than You - it's fair for You.

I have another idea and You should be happy, because this idea solves every problem - it gives chance for teams in small country to have better TV contract but it doesn't give unearned advantage. Every team created in 1st league in Cymru has TV contracts and marchendise on 5th league level. If this team win 1st league then his TV contracts and marchendise will increase to 4th league level. Etc, etc, and finally if this team win 1st league four times then his incomes will be on 1st league level. It will be fair. Because in big country if team is created in 5th division he has to be promoted 4 times (without relegation) to have incomes on 1st league level.

Last edited by B.B.King at 8/22/2011 6:18:58 AM