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ive played a lot of games like this & buzzerbeater is the best

lots of things can be improved but even if there never would be any changes id still play

(but get a look inside team lol)

You could argue that the database size is accurate in Japan & imbalance elsewhere..

Japanese people wouldn't dream of cheating and creating farm teams...

Maybe the true database size of Spain, Germany & USA is actually 50-100 & each of their users has multiple accounts?

Whilst I agree that perhaps Wolph's method of delivery might sometimes be found wanting, the problem at the crux of his complaints is valid.
Yes, it's a free game. But there is money being made from it, and a lot of the issues being pointed out are - from what I understand - relatively quick fixes. Something as small as where new teams are allocated would have far reaching implications as to the longevity of the game for new people.

Knecht brings up a great point too...

And fishy? I'm interested to know if you've ever played a certain football game with a name like getting three outs in cricket...


Update: in the last month or so, we've had 5 new teams join Japan. EVERY one of them placed in II.1... ... ...

Last edited by malice at 2/6/2012 5:40:38 AM

I am not sure whether the fixes are "relatively easy" or not. Perhaps the computer programming work is easy, but as developers of a game with 30 or 40 thousand people playing, making decisions based on 100 people's comments is not such an easy decision. Just because some people are vocal does not mean they should be given priority. It is my understanidng that keeping some sort of order is very imortant in these large programming projects. Swithcing things up based on user subgroup size might be more difficult or use more resources than we assume.

And while I disagree that we shoud limit the numbers of the different divisions based on country size, I heartily agree with the suggestion that new teams begin no higher than division 3, even if it means bots fill d.1 and d.2.

making decisions based on 100 people's comments is not such an easy decision. Just because some people are vocal does not mean they should be given priority.

Well you could start a poll to find out how the games population feels about certain things. Try to be creative...

making decisions based on 100 people's comments is not such an easy decision. Just because some people are vocal does not mean they should be given priority.

Well you could start a poll to find out how the games population feels about certain things. Try to be creative...

And that poll will be answered by the same ~50 users (and I am on the very optimistic side...).

making decisions based on 100 people's comments is not such an easy decision. Just because some people are vocal does not mean they should be given priority.

Well you could start a poll to find out how the games population feels about certain things. Try to be creative...

And that poll will be answered by the same ~50 users (and I am on the very optimistic side...).

then better do nothing ... as we never will have a major opinion

1) Having that kind of poll is close to nothing - 50 out of 50K , and biased 50 are close to 0...

2) When answering polls will be part of the game - when one will not answer a poll (that will be informed to all), he will be fined (for example) - it may work.
Just using polls as it is will not do any good.

I think you and I both know that the response to a poll would still be under representative of the BB population. Perhaps a mailing asking us to reply to several questions could get a decent response, but then someone must come up with what few questions are most important and worthwhile for the community as a whole.

Let me ask you this. What are the main topics of discussion in the German forum? Do they basically mimic what goes on here in global? There are less than 10 regular German/Austrian posters here but I am sure there must be many more on your dedicated language forum. What are the pressing concerns there?

Perhaps there could be a 20th anniversary state-of-the-game questionnaire that could be sent out to all users. Information from said questionnaire could be used to help assess the direction of the game.

While I don't think a poll is the answer, I think you are on the right track and that some sort of site-wide questionnaire would be valuable.