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As you and Gully have said lots of managers getting involved can only be a good thing.

You are right about current NT training as well, would be great if lots of people were training the top level guys but realistically there aren't that many English teams that can eat the salaries and transfer fees especially if there is a cheaper foreign guy on the TL.

What can you do? Arrogance and condescendence is all around us!!!

You are right about current NT training as well, would be great if lots of people were training the top level guys but realistically there aren't that many English teams that can eat the salaries and transfer fees especially if there is a cheaper foreign guy on the TL.

If my arena had an extra 5k seats, I wouldn't care much about spending the extra money. As of now the benefits of a lower purchase price (and building arena with the savings) is just too much.

I'm not going to quote the part about only you and Vecx training players for the NT. I find the comment so silly as to be irrelevant.

Moreover, keeping 33+ yo in NT instead of promoting young and a bit weaker, but still in progress, players can't encourage managers to do sacrifice for NT.

I completely disagree with this. So much that I'm not going to give it another thought.

The main problem I see for England is its lack of teams which train english players for NT.

This I do agree with. However, its common knowledge.

I feel ya Lemon.. I'm still $3,000,000 off a maxed arena (not that i need it in my league to be fair)

To stay on NT topic I have to say the u21 guys have been really good this season got a training plan quickly and a check up message since. Worth applauding because it must be a pretty thankless task..

I agree Zeus is doing a fantastic job

To stay on NT topic I have to say the u21 guys have been really good this season got a training plan quickly and a check up message since. Worth applauding because it must be a pretty thankless task..

I wouldn't want to put anyone off, but having worked behind the scenes with previous u21 coaches, I think theirs is a harder job than mine. And yes, its a thankless task. They have to run the team, pick the squad, deal with the players in the squad, they players for next year's squad, then the 18 and 19yos that are possibly for the next coach's tenure.

Oh, not even mentioning the messages they send out and never get a reply.

Last edited by Gully Foyle at 12/4/2014 5:52:25 PM

i think we are alright with guard trainees for the future. I am training two and my ex colleague Astragoth is training one and now selling him to give Osman priority. I would love to take sidaway on board, but since we both used to log on both from work and our IP adresses are linked, I prefer not to do that to avoid a possible ban... I asked our NT coach for feedback on my 2 guards so that I can shape them as best as possible to become great NT players.

I don't want this to come across wrongly as it seems like lots of passionate people here.

I would go as far as to say Sidaway is unlikely to make the NT he has only gone up 15 stat points in the last 4 seasons since he played for U21 and his inside needs lots of work. I would encourage you to keep going on your players Johannes. I'm happy to be proved wrong on Sidaway by the way, just in reality and not in "oh yes I can" statements as frankly we can talk and throw mud all we like here. All we will achieve is lost ground and dirty hands.

Sidaway looks like a nice affordable player, but he's very similar to my backup PG (also 26), much more so than my (weaker) starting guard. I very much doubt that his OD can be trained to a sufficient level for the NT, considering he won't get enough elastic effect from past 1v1 training.

It might help if we had the "must have" and "nice to have" by position from the managers. While players can be trained to play in a certain system some minimum skills are required no matter what. Giving an indication may help people focus on what is more important. At least if the first string players are not there because none is good enough, the second string (say superstar potential) might be not too far off. You know, guys like this: (25004135) 16/8/18 18/19/9 16/13/8/2 or (23064217) 16/8/17 19/18/14 12/11/5/4. Feldman, also a superstar potential, was 16/8/18 20/20/7 14/12/7/7.

These are all inferior picks compared to what the NT has had in recent times probably, but if we don't have better players we will have to settle for the second tier and it's in our best interest that second tier is also looked after, precisely because there might not be a first tier of <32yo players who are better than that in the future. Only training the relatively few MVP, HoF and ATG from a reduced pool of managers, is probably not a very safe idea in the long term.

Edit: I paid $331k for Gotz (who has no deficit to Sidaway in OD/PA/JS and has a total of 4-5 less outside skills) and Sidaway is going to go for $750k. More than double.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/5/2014 11:59:40 AM