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271948.109 in reply to 271948.108
Date: 8/7/2015 12:18:14 PM
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I just would like to know which of you, if any, would be willing to add the two youngsters I bought yesterday to the team. They're not technically American as of yet, and I'm not training them as you typically would for U21 play anyway, but if you're the type of manager who'd let those things stop you from trying to buy my vote I'm not sure I'm ready to vote for you anyhow.

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Date: 8/7/2015 12:22:04 PM
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Took you 15 seasons to make DII. I did it in 9.


That means absolutely nothing. Are you going to say I'm any less of a manager for sacrificing almost ten seasons of my team in order to train U21/NT guys? Some, like Jfarb made it to the NBBA after only 5 seasons. Managers have different strategies, and different goals. Some are ambitious and win at all costs, and some like to train at the expense of competitiveness, with everyone in between.

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Date: 8/7/2015 12:26:45 PM
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You are 100% correct.

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Date: 8/7/2015 12:29:33 PM
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Nico-Jan Schur for schur!

If you're telling me I can have a 6'8'' German point-foward as the face of the American U21 team than I'd top Jelme as the worst U21 manager ever.

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I just would like to know which of you, if any, would be willing to add the two youngsters I bought yesterday to the team. They're not technically American as of yet, and I'm not training them as you typically would for U21 play anyway, but if you're the type of manager who'd let those things stop you from trying to buy my vote I'm not sure I'm ready to vote for you anyhow.


Lonnie Hitchcock has been on my radar since I saw him at the BB AAU camp last summer. The kid would not shut up about the opportunity to play for me at the BB U21 Universal Tournament.

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Date: 8/7/2015 12:47:07 PM
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Great questions Rico. This is the kind of dialogue we are going to need going forward.

As far as your concerns regarding your past experience with Touza, I would also be there for managers in this situation. I am open to hear and discuss reasonable thoughts with managers in any forum. ( Vote for phyr because he and ebw say so is not a reasonable thought )

I am not saying that we need a total overhaul of what is done on the offsite. I do however think there is room for improvement and we need to become more results oriented.

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Date: 8/7/2015 1:39:46 PM
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What has made you an OrioleMan as you stated in your speech? And to add on to that, would you spend that same amount of money on improving the U21?

I have 1757 players for sale and I'm $25,835,360 in debt. Buy them at outrageous prices, or be selfish and make me go bankrupt. You decide, BB.
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Date: 8/7/2015 1:55:12 PM
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. ( Vote for phyr because he and ebw say so is not a reasonable thought )
vote for Phyr or managers won't train U21 players for you. No wants to waste their time training if we have a bad manager. The off-site is the reason we have 4 golds not the cabal. So GODBEAR, if you become U21 manager how are you going to scout players and gameplan?

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Date: 8/7/2015 2:12:39 PM
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. ( Vote for phyr because he and ebw say so is not a reasonable thought )


vote for Phyr or managers won't train U21 players for you. No wants to waste their time training if we have a bad manager. The off-site is the reason we have 4 golds not the cabal. So GODBEAR, if you become U21 manager how are you going to scout players and gameplan?


So you and other managers are going to quit if phyr doesn't win? That doesn't sound childish. As far as scouting, phyr has promised to continue scouting. I think that would be a great start to the new program. When he was scouting and not directing the operation, America brought home the gold. If he were to resign, then we have many other viable options in our stable.

As I have said many times, we need a results based executive to this program. Someone who can sort through the gameplan thoughts of not only the experienced and talented minds we have in our structure, but those who will spend their entire BB career in D4 as well.

Don't forget about NOVA NATION NIGHT. It's going to be huge.


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So you and other managers are going to quit if phyr doesn't win? That doesn't sound childish. As far as scouting, phyr has promised to continue scouting. I think that would be a great start to the new program. When he was scouting and not directing the operation, America brought home the gold. If he were to resign, then we have many other viable options in our stable.
basically. If I was Phyr and I lost the election I would fire all 3 of my world bigs. Two of them being the best bigs in that class. I don't think Phyr would scout for you. I'm not scouting if Phyr doesn't win and I'll fire my American bigs I picked up for U21. As coach you still have to scout. You are only one that knows everyone skills. You would have to call-up tons of players and get all their skills putting them in a spreadsheet. No one else can do that but you. All the scouts do is ask for training plans. WE ARE LUCKY TO MAKE IT OUT THE FIRST ROUND THAT'S THE TYPE OF TEAM WE HAD THIS YEAR. WE HAD NO BIGS OR PGs. ALL WE HAD SGs AND LOW PASSING INSIDE GUARDS. PHYR MANANGE TO GET A SLIVER. NO ONE ELSE IN BB WOULD OF BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. Phyr changed training plans and made gusty calls. We were playing for bronze and got sliver.

As I have said many times, we need a results based executive to this program. Someone who can sort through the gameplan thoughts of not only the experienced and talented minds we have in our structure, but those who will spend their entire BB career in D4 as well
lol I'm training some crazy builds right now while expanding my arena that's why I'm in D4. I know what I'm doing lol. This is my 3th time playing BB. Your funny and a great promoter. I'm not sure about you coaching skills for U21 though.

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