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indeed.

Remember, the lowest level ratings take the longest time to upgrade, if we are to believe the rules.

From the rules:

For the other training types, players will improve more quickly not only with additional playing time, but also a more skilled player will improve more quickly. For example, a great inside defender and rebounder will find it easier to improve his shot blocking than a poor inside defender and poor rebounder would. This encourages you to develop players with a combination of skills, but there are many combinations of skills which work well together -- you can develop players who will be a good fit for your team's needs.

The part in bold seems to disagree with you ;)

Absolutely not. It is 100% in agreement with me. It is the wording I referred to, in fact.

It disagrees with you 100%, and I'll diagram it for you if it will make more sense that way. But first, here's the sentence from the rules again:

a great inside defender and rebounder will find it easier to improve his shot blocking than a poor inside defender and poor rebounder would

Let's throw in some player skills based on that sentence:

[A]
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: prolific
Rebounding: prominent Shot Blocking: atrocious

Notice how this player is a "great inside defender and rebounder"? The line I have now quoted thrice suggests that this player would "find it easier to improve his shot blocking" than, say this player:

[B]
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: proficient

A "poor inside defender and poor rebounder". Given my understanding of both this line of the rules and the English language, one could easily assume that player A can expect to improve his shot blocking much more quickly than player B, even though player A has what you refer to as "the lowest level ratings".

So, unless that specific line in the rules is poorly crafted, it disagrees with your assessment that "the lowest level ratings take the longest time to upgrade". Either way, I am currently testing this theory with one of my centers, so I should be able to either prove or disprove that portion of the rules within a season or so. ;)

I thinks he was talking about the piece of text directly in from of your bold part...

but also a more skilled player will improve more quickly

The sentence that follows "but also a more skilled player will improve more quickly" is what explains the meaning of "but also a more skilled player will improve more quickly"; i.e. the higher his complimentary skills, the faster he trains.

edit: underlined complimentary so you guys will better understand me.

Edited by darykjozef (12/29/2007 2:32:20 PM CET)

Last edited by darykjozef at 12/29/2007 2:32:20 PM

you don't need to convince me...
I just pointed out what I thought was why he said he was right.

:)

The sentence that follows "but also a more skilled player will improve more quickly" is what explains the meaning of "but also a more skilled player will improve more quickly"; i.e. the higher his complimentary skills, the faster he trains.

edit: underlined complimentary so you guys will better understand me.

Edited by darykjozef (12/29/2007 2:32:20 PM CET)

I did misunderstand you. Yes, the higher complimentary skills will make it easier to train the skill in question. However, I think you missed my two points:

1) Training the poor skill directly is much, much better than the complementary skill training you initially suggested (at least I think that's what you suggested).

2) Getting Atrocious level up to (for example) Mediocre is still a time consuming process and one which needs direct training to minimize the time needed.

I'm also not certain that Inside shot is considered complimentary to the SG skill set, either.

Looking this over, I think there has been a lot of misunderstanding by all concerned, including me, so I'll try to take the time to restate what I think is true and why:

1) Leminski has a poor shooting percentage because his Inside Shot rating is Atrocious. Since he can't avoid taking inside shots during the game, he won't improve his overall shooting percentage until he increases his IS rating.

2) you can train IS directly or indirectly by one of the combination methods suggested by darykjozef.

3) The problem with the combo training is:
a) the weekly increase is very small
b) the complimentary training bonus does not apply to this player in this situation.

4) Complimentary training does not apply because IS is complementary to Rebounding, Shot Blocking and Inside Defense. Leminski is Atrocious in Shot Blocking, mediocre in rebounding and average for Inside Defense. So he's not a 'more skilled player" in the needed skill areas. Therefore, he won't get a complimentary skill training bonus. His being good in guard skills doesn't help at all for learning the inside skill set.

So Leminski needs to have direct Inside shot training in order to achieve anything other than an insignificant improvement in his skill level.

Overall, Leminski is poorest in 'big man skills' so it will take longer for him to improve those skills than his SG/SF skills.

Hope that clarifies what I've been trying to say.