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I agree how you do over a season is relevant. But in general, a better team should beat a worse team the majority of the time. I think the ranking system works too slowly at the moment, it might provide more accurate results in 3 or 4 seasons time, but at the moment it is not accurate except for maybe the top teams.
The ranking system I suggested is a quick moving ranking system with changes constantly taking place, which might take a little while to settle down, but at least if it is fast moving people might be more enticed to actually compete more with higher teams and see where they are ranked. In the current ranking system a team ranked 600th in Australia might be considerably better than someone ranked 400th in Australia. This would probably take a whole season or 2 to reverse itself and become accurate, where as in my system if the 600th team beats the 400th team then they switch places. Safeguards could come into this, like for example both teams must play at the same effort level.

hmmm...maybe if instead of seeing the ranking we could see the ranking and the number of points we have. That way we can see the difference in points between us and the team ranked just above us. This way we can see who we overtake and how close we are ranked to the other team and what wins are important to overtake the team.

hmmm...maybe if instead of seeing the ranking we could see the ranking and the number of points we have.

ilike that, this would make the system more understandable - probadly they should also mention the "intervall" of those ranking else people will say i won but i lost points because they didn't notice that a better win drop out of their stats.

Yes I agree. I think 2 seasons, maybe 3 is suitable as an interval. What do you think?

The ranking system is fine as it is. You are the situation I was in last season where each week you beat up on Bot teams and noobs who have no clue. Last season was my first season and my team was out of the cup before I started so the only games that counted were the league games which as I said were vs noobs and bots so I didn't gain much despite a 26 game in a row win streak. This season in my first season of DIV III I lasted 4 rounds in the cup and am currently in 3rd place in my division and my rating has vastly improved.

Next season when you are in DIV III (and trust me the competition is MUCH MUCH harder) if you keep on winning your rating will go through the roof too. You just need patience. Swaping ratings over one game is just silly and not the way any rankings in the real world work.

As for why I think the ratings are currently excellent, take me as an example.
There are 16 ABBL teams all better than me. Total 16
There are 16 x 4 DIV II teams, all better than me. 64 + 16 =80.
There are 16 DIV III leagues and I estimate there are about 3 teams per league that are better than me. 48 + 80 = 128.

So if I had to rate myself I would guess roughly 128 in Australia. What does the computer say? 135! Seems amazingly good and accurate to me!

It's not exactly that I think there is a problem with the rankings. It's more that no one really knows EXACTLY how the rankings work. So I reckon if they did something like show how many points you were on as well as your ranking, then you could see how many more points you needed to go up a place. I think this ould make things more competitive.

Also there is too much emphasis on the cup. A team in my league drew 3 or 4 bots in a row, so his ratings went up massively.

Also there is too much emphasis on the cup. A team in my league drew 3 or 4 bots in a row, so his ratings went up massively.

thats a weakness of the system, but i like the importance of the cup, because it is the best comparision betwen leagues. A strong league, could be a bottle neck for several good teams who didn't promote but who are quality wise on a level that they could play in the league above -> maybe they show it through cup games that they deserve this level + teams who regualary play them also should be profitate for their listing so that you a cross league comparision so that maybe the leader of the IV.2 is considerred weaker then the third of the "strong" IV.4

Though one thing I noticed is that your ranking only goes up when you beat a team better than you. The reason there is emphasis on the cup is because there is more of an opportunity for weaker teams to play the strong teams. Once you get to division 3 and are consistently beating teams ranked higher than you, you will see your ranking go up very rapidly. Conversely, if you are stuck in div 4 and constantly playing and beating teams lower than you, your ranking will not rise.

the most valuable and fair way , is something like point system....
the last season games , or the last 30 games...
one formula like that :

division game= point diference * 1
cup game = point diference * 2
bb3 game = point difference * 10

also , the division could be a part of this formula , by the way of one additional
like : division game= point diference * 1* division point
division point could be in this way : how many categories the country has , etc 6
I->6
II->5
III->4
IV->3
V->2
VI->1

and all this stuff could uploaded , at bbstats , to be more close to users to see....