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The only problem with showing this stat is that people may stop training these aggresive players even though they can be very good. Or they may just sell for less which could be a good thing to a team that puts the effort into making him good.

Well, personally I would have paid 1M more if I knew that my player won't make fouls. In some other games, like in hattrick, this stat can be seen by managers.
These non-aggressive players price would increase and aggressive players price would decrease. Result would be +-0.

But.. My money was already spent so.. maybe in couple of years I could benefit from this if it was added.

Well you can watch some matches with that player before purchase. If he foul more by few, I wouldnt care, but I suppose this is another little thing which can make a difference between great and best manager.

Yes, yes of course we can detect stats of those old players. :) Has anyone actually read the first posts before posting their "wisdom". I was more interested of those 18y players straight from the draft (as said earlier). You can't see their stats. As I'm one of these managers who like to "build" my guys (at least now), not to buy some 25-28y oldies.

But, well.. this idea doesn't get the wind below it like I would have hoped. Someone are just born to suffer with aggressive players and others are luckier.

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Eh... What Napauttaja is trying to say is, that if you want fresh trainee and buy 18y one from transfer list, you CAN'T say if it's aggressive or not. And when player is in transferlist, you don't have much time to see it playing (most likely it isnt playing at all). So... you buy expensive 18y trainee, hall of famer and then notice that it's foul-addict. This thing should be included in scouting. When they do "testgames" for team and you notice some ratings, you should also be able to tell does player play aggressively or not.

"Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you...

...with experience."

Last edited by skeletappi at 2/10/2011 5:13:22 PM

I see someone having elitist attitude here, maybe it's because of so cool GM-status.

That still doesnt make it more realistic. In real life if you are scouting people, you will also consider personality of players when you watch their matches. So if potential kids come to your club showing their skills and when you interview them etc. (reading in scouting pages btw if you didnt notice!), you really should have some kind of view about their personality as well.

If not, maybe they should change content of those pages and let people know that "You will scout only skills and potential of players but we want to keep personality hidden! We want to keep some random factor in game!".

I really don't see reason why it must be so mysterious hidden factor, it's just stupid. It doesnt add depth to this game or give any fun elements. Sure it's ok to watch old players and see how much they do fouls, but same should be doable somehow to youngsters as well.

Also, you can give higher bonuses in something for those players that are more aggressive. So people don't stop training them, but it would be up to manager to decide what he wants to do.

Just my 5 cents, but I guess that's too much for elitist attitude to read anyway.



Last edited by skeletappi at 2/10/2011 11:10:48 PM

It has nothing to do with predictable or robotic. You know.. some people are more aggressive style of players by their nature that doesnt change during years. Ofc they can add some kind of system that makes player to change their personality but it would be more "playing style" not their personality. Taking too many fouls is more personality problem than playing style problem in my opinion. And that kind of personality you can tell from 18y old already. They have been playing matches long before appearing in your club's training room you know, so interview (talking with player) and their showing skills (high pressure there) should give some kind of view about player. Maybe not accurate number like 1-10 aggressive, but maybe something like: "Bob might be prone to fouls" and such like if you have played hattrick, scouts give their reports.

If they give out accurate number, it still would be ok in my opinion. There could be range factor in that number (like... 1-3, 5-7) so it would not be accurate, but sure after talking with player and watching their game you have some kind of view that is player 1 or 10 kind of aggressive. And.. if I need aggressive player in my team, I could have possibility to buy one just like in real life. Not just buy one random guy and cross my fingers while hoping for best.

In my opinion totally random system is weak and not fun. Why? Because system we have now don't have much options to keep that player away from fouling. In real life you can talk to player and stop paying wage for week or two when he doesnt listen.

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Maybe add more weight to scouting system and it's interview and test matches. Like... scouts could tell that player likes to steal ball a lot and then you watch game, he does that and takes few fouls... you could tell that player is more aggressive yes? Add this report to this player permanently, so manager who is buying this player can check out "report" what this kid is capable of.

Last edited by skeletappi at 2/11/2011 10:25:27 AM