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203621.11 in reply to 203621.10
Date: 11/29/2011 10:24:00 AM
Kitakyushu
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Did you really just post that.....
I know PL games are played in arcade mode....come on....a bit slow are we?
But..we weren't talking about injuries and minutes. We are talking about the attendance code written into the game.
Attendance at any HOMEGAME is effected by prices, PR staff, Winning and losing. EVEN PL games.
PL game against a Div.3 team.....(88619)
PL game against a Div.1 team.....(36144411)
so why such a bid difference if the tickets are FREE as you say.......I can tell you...The attendance code is still calculating on what the attendance should be when all the things that effect attendance are taken into account. The only difference is that there is no money for the Home team.
Lazy I'm not....Not too bright...you are!!!

Last edited by Yellow cake at 11/29/2011 10:24:22 AM

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203621.12 in reply to 203621.11
Date: 11/29/2011 10:25:23 AM
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I answered your examples. Its not my fault you don't like the truth.

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203621.14 in reply to 203621.7
Date: 11/29/2011 1:16:29 PM
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All the users in Japan are so... so... demanding! Either you see conspiracy or complain.

Ahhhh, How I'd wish you had to star from scratch on a IV or a V division, and have to earn your money like the rest of us.-

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203621.15 in reply to 203621.13
Date: 11/29/2011 5:34:59 PM
Kitakyushu
ASL
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Jokes aside, every single game engine calculation involved in the PL game is the same as normal games, and that includes tactics, matchups, player skills, game shape, enthusiasm, home court advantage and ticket sales. The only difference is that it doesn't give you any in game advantage (in terms of funds or minutes played or training or enthusiasm) or disadvantage (in terms of minutes played). He wasn't too lazy to do research. He just understood what that paragraph more than you did.

Thank you....A voice of reason. I can tell you have been playing the game for longer than 3 season. To seriously think he was suggesting that the computer wasn't calculating anything to get the attendance total for a private league home game was just plain crazy.

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203621.16 in reply to 203621.15
Date: 11/29/2011 5:41:01 PM
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Thats not even what I said. Go back and reread.

In your first example, the first game you were both coming off of playoff wins. You upset the number 2 seed and Leones del Cinaruco won too. Why wouldn't more people show to a fictional game with free admission between, to play off teams.

In your second example, last season, Kanazawa Kings were coming off promotion. This season they are coming off of season in which they were nearly regulated. So they had fans last season, and this season they all left.


Quit ignoring the 1st part, because you don't want to accept it. The truth is, Fans are more excited when you win in the playoffs, as opposed to the regular season. Or do you not agree with that?

Last edited by WFUnDina at 11/29/2011 5:46:07 PM

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203621.17 in reply to 203621.14
Date: 11/29/2011 5:41:11 PM
Kitakyushu
ASL
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All the users in Japan are so... so... demanding! Either you see conspiracy or complain.

It's called making an observation. Even other teams in TOP Leagues have noticed this problem. I talked with an undefeated team from another country and he was making 615K a home game last season and this season his best take has been 598K.. To go from averaging 615K to where your best is 598K..that is the difference of having an extra low salary player.
Ahhhh, How I'd wish you had to star from scratch on a IV or a V division, and have to earn your money like the rest of us.-

Come on....this is way off topic....but I bet you if try real hard you might get out of Div. 3 next season.
Good luck to you mate!!

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203621.18 in reply to 203621.11
Date: 11/29/2011 5:45:44 PM
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Well I looked at your situation. As we all know, winning away has a BIG impact on your next home game income. We can clear that PL fuzz right away. We all know that PL get's played in arcade mode. That also means no entu is put into it. One special thing to notice is: when winning by walkover in PL, the minute distribution does not equal to normal league/cup game. So they are somewhat different systems. What comes to the PL attendance, you conveniently "forgot" to mention those 2 games were semifinal and final of that PL. Obviously those attendances should be higher than your "normal".
Looking at your schedule and arena attendance it was normally a bit below 17k. You lost in the cup (in the 1-st round), it does not matter to who you lose, it matters when you lose. The yearly runner up was pushed out of the cup early. You compensated this by keeping your league record clean. You even managed to win your televised game against your rival. The fans were thinking is this really the year Kitakyushu is going for the championship. With some luck in the fan survey (we all know it's a bit random there aswell) you managed to produce unbelievable +2000 crowd on your next home game. When you visited Sharman, you were brought back down to earth. This produced (with perhaps some unluck) a bad enough fan survey + the effects of falling out of the cup early were evident + your next opponent home was a lousy team. Obviously you took a hit, that was suitable to your current situation.
Perhaps this loss, made your fans realise again, that your team is a yearly semifinal team (yet again) with no cup success this year.
NB! There was also a price change date before the last match. Perhaps you meddled with the prices or did not notice you had changed them before and are keeping this info from us aswell. Once again: with away loss comes a huge drop in bleacher attendance and a loss in lower tier seat attendance.
NB!2 Winners don't whine...

Last edited by Kukoc at 11/30/2011 7:51:41 AM

From: Kukoc
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203621.19 in reply to 203621.17
Date: 11/29/2011 5:47:52 PM
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Come on....this is way off topic....but I bet you if try real hard you might get out of Div. 3 next season.
Coming from a 41 user country manager. This seems rich:D

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203621.20 in reply to 203621.19
Date: 11/29/2011 6:41:07 PM
Palestra Itália
Liga Nacional
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Second Team:
S.E. Palmeiras
I dunno what the GMs did with the engine, the code, whatever, but it´s a total s***, especially in the crunch time.

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