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223393.11 in reply to 223393.4
Date: 8/11/2012 1:05:05 AM
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@ skyhook good point against the handicap system

i often do "test" lineups in the pl & use it to experiment & with some top players out that wouldnt work

thinking aloud about the 3 federations

if it was
yoda - calamari
koop - sharks
mllama - sea otters? beavers? platypuses? (trying 2 think of the closest aquatic creature 2 a wombat)

protected picks could be

yoda - calamari - naker & abigfishy
koop - sharks - jw & akuma
mllama - platypuses - dire & coachnoodles

i know yoda would try 2 pick as many as he could of rob, trikster, matty, ezyfrag while koop would surely want wb, bainsy & skyhooks

Last edited by abigfishy at 8/11/2012 1:15:26 AM

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223393.12 in reply to 223393.11
Date: 8/11/2012 1:21:16 AM
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just bringing my list of who is the best contributors to the "community spirit" of the league from the other thread

east
great contributors
Chelsea Seagulls
Black Label Society
Guanzheng Goldfish
The Winnerz
Maggots
Chumunga
JW City Bulls

average
Billy Hoyles Boys
Mad Rangas

just play
Bell Park SuperCats
Vis Maior
Whompas Donkeys

koops east
great contributors
Lewisham Wombats
Whitebeard
Koopasaurus
Western Titans
Viral Infections
TeamAkuma
Baxter Bogans

average
Pancakes with Jam and Cream
Geelong Vipers

just play
Monkey Business
Slam !
CROCKERS

south
great contributors
Brisbane Thunder
Gisborne Gladiators
Skyhook Dreamers
Moorditj Magick
shepparton shooters
Awesome^.-
Home Axis
Bringing Sexy Back

average
TEAM LORDY

just play
Coin Collectors
All-Sorts
Mittyman Lions

have 1 made any major f-ups with this list?

From: Leeroy

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223393.13 in reply to 223393.9
Date: 8/11/2012 1:56:59 AM
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No re-draft.. the calamari have a good fed, why should they be split up because 3 other feds cant get their shit together

Don't agree with this at all. If we're going to "fix" this PL we'll need to make sacrifices, a mentality like that is selfish. By all means if you can come up with a compromise i'll be all ears, but an attitude like this and we may as well stop now.

From: Skyhookz

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223393.14 in reply to 223393.13
Date: 8/11/2012 2:11:14 AM
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i dont see how it is selfish, considering i am not in the calamari... i dont know why it works, it could be driven by 1 or 2 people... take them out and move em to Sharks, Sharks then thrive and Calamari dies..

the issue is getting EVERYONE involved and participating, not taking active people from 1 fed and moving to another.. That doesnt fix the problem, it simply moves it from 1 fed to another...

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223393.15 in reply to 223393.13
Date: 8/11/2012 2:19:44 AM
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It's not selfish, as he isn't even a Calamari I don't believe.

Regardless, here are my thoughts on the issue:

I like the idea of the handicap system.
If you play someone in a division above you, you should be able to nominate one player that they can't use.
If you play someone two divisions above you, you should be able to nominate two players that they can't use.
This is a slight adjustment from Fishy's suggestion of two and four respectively, which I feel is too many players to nominate.

Regarding the MVPs. I think that we should have MVP writeups next season, however, they should only be for a limited number of games. These limited number of games will be the six games chosen for the tipping games.
In other words, the six matches that are selected each week for the tipping competition will be the only matches that will have MVP writeups. Now I realise some people may complain that this means that it advantages the teams that get picked for the six games each week, but that's just part of what makes it more interesting. Each week we have different teams being picked, so over the entire season it should balance out. I also suggest choosing the matches that will have the closest games for the tipping competition so that every game will be more interesting.

Regarding the reshuffling of federations, I don't mind doing this if people seem to want to try and get to meet new people. But if it is the case, then I agree that all the federations need to be completely reshuffled. Or perhaps each federation can keep three teams, and the rest get shuffled.

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223393.16 in reply to 223393.15
Date: 8/11/2012 2:31:44 AM
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I agree with most of what you and others have said, Naker.

Firstly, I like the idea of one player being nominated for each level above your team you play. That is, Div IIII v Div II = 1 player from Div II sits out. Div III v ABBL = 2 players nominated to sit out from ABBL team. I think this would be a fair handicap given that the loss of 2 key ABBL players against a strong Div III team will be far more competetive.

Secondly, I disagree with the MVP write-ups being relegated to only those matches chosen for the week. I disagree for the reason you put forward: teams will be unfairly disadvantaged. How to fix this? Simple: use your system, Naker, where a simple 3/2/1 votes are given (listing important stats like 33 pts, 22 reb etc) would be simple, and allow all teams to have a shot at seeing their players gain MVP votes.

Thirdly, like you, Naker, if everyone is really keen to mix up the federations to try and have mangaers work with other managers, I'll happily do this in the spirit of keeping the Fishbowl active and alive. I must just add that I am, will always be, a Calamari...regardless of who drafts me. lol However, the Fishbowl has allowed me to meet so many awesome managers that I wouldn't have a problem joining them. Which leads me to my final comment...

...although not a Calamari, Skyhookz, I would never describe you as 'selfish' mate. You just understand that sometimes teams work their arses of to become a great team and that breaking them up when they achieve this is somewhat unfair.

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223393.17 in reply to 223393.15
Date: 8/11/2012 2:36:37 AM
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@ leeroy i agree we will have 2 make some changes

@ skyhook u rnt selfish but i think changes r needed

@ naker y maybe ur suggestion is better 2 just exclude 1 player in the handicap maybe that is a big debate worth a poll?

dont like ur suggestion on mvps just doing random games

but i do think the "naker style" riteups r the go

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223393.18 in reply to 223393.17
Date: 8/11/2012 2:40:39 AM
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I think it depends on the point of the MVPs - is it to give out an award, or to stimulate discussion on the games etc. In my view, the point of them atm should be the latter, in which case I'd prefer more detailed writeups on fewer games, rather than more games but no detail.

I should add, that dependant on the format we go with MVPs, I'm willing to help out, though I would rather do the writeups for a league I'm not in (I enjoy reading what other people write about my own players, which I lose if I do the writeups for my own league!)

From: Leeroy

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223393.19 in reply to 223393.14
Date: 8/11/2012 2:45:24 AM
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Didn't mean to say you were selfish. I'm just saying it's a selfish mentality. After saying the PL needs a change to have that opinion would just be counter-productive.

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223393.20 in reply to 223393.18
Date: 8/11/2012 2:50:32 AM
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i think in the past we had 2 many games which we wanted done in 2 much detail & is was being done by 2 few people making it work not fun

people that have done mvps & i assume would do it again
yoda
mllama
tremell
whitebeard
bainsy
matty
skyhook
leeroy
ezyfrag
naker
robhoe
me

if we all agreed 2 do it on some sort of roster that is 5-6 peeps per league which means most people would only have 2 do it 2 times for an entire seaon

id certainly be happy 2 do it 2 times a season

From: Mr J

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223393.21 in reply to 223393.20
Date: 8/11/2012 2:54:50 AM
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yeah, good call Big Fish. Twice a season is very managable. I'd be happy with the roster idea.

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