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the best turkish player. total 134(27yo) also 3 skills are close to pop. (19352882)

An all primaries player does not get near 135 skills xD

Spain tops in 141 as far as I know.

Also, I dont know why TSP does not count FT and ST, as they are important skills.

Nope, its 141+12

Also, I did a free throw study its in spanish but the numbers are easy to understand (241752.1). As you can see FT can become worthless but you rarely see players who overtrain freethrow at NT level.

Also, how would you value experience? Would you pick a overtrained 1vs1 player with high TSP?

Maybe I qualify as farm as I am training a NT prospect and hopefully a NT player. Not as good as to enter the "highest TPS in BB" conversation (119 + 6, 25yo)

But when you are talking about rounding his skills, you always have the choice between more 1on1 traning or primaries. One will bring you higher TSP but the question is if it will also translate to better performance.

has there ever been a 150 tsp pllayer? (excluding stamina and ft)

Last edited by tough at 10/7/2013 9:36:47 PM

I wonder, what is the highest sum of ID/IS/RB/SB for u21 player ever.

I am questioning tps itself, not trying to make an argument against a specific training. I am saying if we give too much importance to TPS we can give up on other areas of the player.

For example, high IS low JS small forwards can be cheap, they are listed as power forward and OD, JR, 1on1, Pa are all cheap or free until the player changes to SF or PG. PA and 1on1 are important but can be overtrained in favor of Jr and od as they are faster to train.

About farms. They are an obious reality, i just do not believe they are as extended as you always propose. I have been involved in Spains NT for nearly as long as I have been playing the game and i,ve been NT manager myself. Only had contact with a farm twice. The first one was an exNT trying to sabotage Italy's turbato. Really embarasing and reported that instant. And an old timer that bought players and trained gs until we went bot. (A bigger problem if you ask me because we have no farms to buy 1m centers and lost a good player who retired). None of those were training farms.

Still spain won the Eurocup while I was manager and even if we have underachieved comparing our users to ceska for example, is that proof of farming on other countries? We still compete at a high level. Do are competitive nature mean we have farms?