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So it's time for summary of our data.

1. In fact, there some teams, which played in top leagues during training top players. Some of them were tanking (for example, KK Noa Zagreb with Selestrin or Vasović from Topola Eagles), but we can find some clubs, which were able to train and fight in top divisions at the same time (new orleans paul with Sheinzinger- the Israeli was trained in top division club when he was 20!; Łodej also begin his adventure with top division when he was 23 and it's probable, so he was trained by Superligota). Yes, it's still a quite rare situation, but it happens.

2.

80 to 90% of the trainers of the top players in the b3 are in fact no longer playing BB and/or exist in the bottom divisions of their respective nations.

Is that statement true? We have here 14 players. which were altogether trained by 26 managers, before they turned 23. How many of them are still active? 9 of them. It's around 35% of all trainers. If we compare it to your opinion, that there are only 10-20% of them, it's clear, that this statement is exaggerated.

3.

Over 50% of all B3 players have been FA at some point and around 25% have even been FA more than once

That statement is true, more, it may even be underestimated! 10 of 14 players were FA at least once, and 2 of 14 were FA at least twice. It gives us around 70% of once FA players, and 15% of twice+ FA players. According to that, it's true, that FA system is a key factor of making a world-class squad. Of course, world-class teams win most of top FAs auctions, because they usually have the biggest amount of money. However, this is usually an effect of their brilliant skills in managing their roster, not the lack of balance between the biggest ones, and the lesser ones.

4. Not every team, who gone FA after training a player, was uncompetetive. Only the few of them were playing in the lowest possible division in their country. The majority of them were mid-class teams, when they trained today's stars. I'm worried, that this fact haven't been taken into a consideration, when your opinions were made.

5. To make all things clear, we have to remember, B3 teams can't make a direct profit from farm teams! Why? Because if this players have to be sold, everyone can buy them. Therefore, agreements between farm teams and B3 teams are impossible - no one can make this kind of transfer sure.
Why I say it? Because both things come close in your posts, are we have to differ them- it's hard sometimes.

I think, that I can't make more statements at this moments. I hope, that someone will be available to make another thoughts about my data, if this topic is not finished yet.

EDIT: 6. I've forgotten about very important subject: how many players have been trained in their country into NT. Only then it's possible to say, that those players could be a part of farm team. According to my data, 10 from 14 players meets the criteria. One of them, Yalin Bugday, has too low potential to be trained to NT (perennial all-star). Now, we still have 9 players, which could be in farm teams. How many of them were played longer than 1 season in lowest possible active division? Kudyk, Wasztyl, Xiangui and Selestrin. That's three of them. Now, how many of them were trained, when their team was tanking? Vasović (get relegated from DI to DIII), and other players mentioned in previous question. Therefore, there are 5 players, which could be involved in farming. However, we can't say, if they were. Probably the most of them weren't.


Last edited by Siwy at 11/11/2015 10:46:23 AM