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290453.11 in reply to 290453.10
Date: 10/26/2017 8:37:36 PM
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No, you don't look at the stats, you look at the BB forums and read like I and many other have read such information. Are you suggesting the peers of the Forum. Posters such as BB ,Gms many Egm are lying about it? Is that what your saying.? Aggressive players injure themselves or others, they have the ability to do so. Nothing random about it from my reading its coded in game engine from my extensive reading.

The buyers don't dictate anything on BB, the BB game market rules do.

I don't think English is your 1st because your misconstruing everything I'm expressing here. Im not suggesting anything. I said its dishonest to sell a known injured player in you roster and it would have been nicer if BB had a listing of how many times the player was or has been injured in their career. Its my personal perspective opinion. Not a suggestion or a demand.

How you try to manipulate my opinion for your own point of view, like its a fact or suggestion of me by me,when it never was or could be. Is very somewhat "rude". I asked a question and stated my opinion not as a fact or demand but as a question/reply/ opinion in my view.

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290453.12 in reply to 290453.11
Date: 10/26/2017 9:35:48 PM
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I've never seen an "aggressive" player injure himself, only others. And I've never seen a BB, GM, or EGM suggest that aggressive players injure themselves. I've never seen anyone suggest that actually, except for you in this thread. But I haven't done extensive reading on it so I can't say for certain.

I will say that logically it doesn't make much sense to me. And it does bring up another point for me, personally. I think that playing against aggressive players is what causes more fouls which leads to more chances for injuries to occur. So... how would that be the player who got injured's fault? How should that affect his market value at all? There is no such thing as an "injury prone player", imho, so there's no possibility for dishonesty in selling a player who has been injured.

Basically, no one thinks like you do about this, so no one can be dishonest about it. And even if you were to sell a player you thought was "injury prone" without offering a discount, thinking you were being dishonest, in the real world it has no effect because the thing you think you're being dishonest about doesn't exist.

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290453.13 in reply to 290453.12
Date: 10/26/2017 9:56:11 PM
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My thoughts exactly. Said much more eloquently than I could.

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290453.14 in reply to 290453.11
Date: 10/26/2017 10:59:23 PM
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No, you don't look at the stats, you look at the BB forums and read like I and many other have read such information. Are you suggesting the peers of the Forum. Posters such as BB ,Gms many Egm are lying about it? Is that what your saying.?

No. I was suggesting that if it is your opinion that fouls equal injuries, looking at the players stats will give you the evidence you need. I've had many foul prone players never be injured and some of my least aggressive players foul almost every season, but I'm not arguing your opinion. I'm pointing out that if you know that to be true, you have foul stats to see if a player is injury prone.

The buyers don't dictate anything on BB, the BB game market rules do.

No. The person/people bidding on a player dictate the price. If a player is listed at too high of a price, no one bids and the buyers force the player to be listed at a lower price to get a sale. Listing a valuable player at a rediculously low price intices more bidders, and more often than not drives the price well over market value. I don't know what market rules you speak of that tell someone what they must/must not bid on players...

I said its dishonest to sell a known injured player in you roster and it would have been nicer if BB had a listing of how many times the player was or has been injured in their career.

No. It's nothing remotely close to being 'dishonest'. Every single person has the right to sell an injury prone player just as everyone has the same chance of buying an injury prone player. Is it dishonest of Buzzerbeater to give you an injury prone draftee? No, it's just the luck of the draw. Is it then 'dishonest' for you to ever sell that draftee? By your definition, apparently it is and you're stuck with him regardless of his value on the transfer market.

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290453.16 in reply to 290453.12
Date: 10/28/2017 1:26:37 AM
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Read the rule guide .


The game guides states aggressive players are real and it says they foul more often, We all know mass fouls on a certain player leads to injuries over time. Random or not the EGM, BB and Gm have stated these facts above. So to say they have not, shows you did read these things or thought out the process correctly concerning fouls and injuries.

Its still dishonest to sell injure prone players. For example, If you know a apple is bad would you eat it? I don't think you would, why try to sell it to the next man. You know its a bad apple. I said nothing about price or anyone free will . This is not the real world, why bring up the real world argument for a video game.

Its just dishonest in my perspective opinion, no one else has to agree.

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290453.17 in reply to 290453.16
Date: 10/28/2017 4:08:55 AM
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For example, If you know a apple is bad would you eat it?


This is not the real world, why bring up the real world argument for a video game.


Don't know. Why would you?

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290453.18 in reply to 290453.16
Date: 10/28/2017 7:20:02 AM
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The game guides states aggressive players are real and it says they foul more often, We all know mass fouls on a certain player leads to injuries over time.

The player committing the foul is not the one who gets injured. The downside of aggressive players is that they have a tendency to foul out, not get injured.

Random or not the EGM, BB and Gm have stated these facts above.

No, they haven't.

So to say they have not, shows you did read these things or thought out the process correctly concerning fouls and injuries.

Player A is aggressive and fouls Player B. Player B gets injured. Player A is aggressive and not injured. Player B is not aggressive and is injured. What do you not understand about this?


Its still dishonest to sell injure prone players. For example, If you know a apple is bad would you eat it? I don't think you would, why try to sell it to the next man. You know its a bad apple. I said nothing about price or anyone free will . This is not the real world, why bring up the real world argument for a video game.

Its just dishonest in my perspective opinion, no one else has to agree.

My team was probably the 5th-8th best in my league last season. We made the playoffs and then literally punched our way to the championship. So I bought someone else's "bad apples". No injuries. One trip to Division 2.

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290453.19 in reply to 290453.18
Date: 10/29/2017 8:01:11 PM
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Aggressive player can injure themselves in games ,all payer can injure themselves. I don't see why your claiming they cannot. Please show data to back up your claim beyond your own team. Please Don't twist what I say, take it as read, not your opinion as said. Show long term BB data please.


Yes they have . Egm , Bb and gm have said aggressive players exists and foul and injure others more often , so you are wrong. Why would a BB, Gm, Egm lie to us in the matter. They have discussed the matter very thoroughly to be understood by all new and old alike on the forums. Your opinion is not the game guide, stop misleading new user like my self with your personal team accolade credentials.

Your story about your team success is irrelevant on the topic to my personal perspective opinion of what dishonest to me. Sorry to sound rude.

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290453.20 in reply to 290453.19
Date: 10/29/2017 9:21:38 PM
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Yes they have . Egm , Bb and gm have said aggressive players exists and foul and injure others more often , so you are wrong. Why would a BB, Gm, Egm lie to us in the matter.


The only post I have ever seen from anyone who actually knows the GE in depth is from BB Charles.
(29754.15)

As far as the current injury system, basically every time that a player is involved in a physical collision in the game (almost always a foul), there is a chance that he will get injured. If he is injured, he is out for the game, and depending upon the doctor level, we'll assign him an injury length.


That doesn't say a player who fouls more will get injured more. The player who recieved the foul is just as likely to be injured as the player who committed the foul as they are both involved in the physical contact. EGM's and GM's don't have access to the game engine, so their views are as speculative as anyone else's. Unless Marin confirms an update in the injury system (which he won't) BB Charles' post has the most definitive information on how injuries work.

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290453.21 in reply to 290453.19
Date: 10/30/2017 8:25:06 AM
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ok it's better if you stop with this. Everyone else but you is correct on this topic.

As they explained to you repeatedly, foul prone players exist and foul prone players are more likely to injure opponents. They however are not more likely to injure themselves. I have never seen an injured player not being on the receiving end of a foul in BB. You are welcome to look through the play-by-play/viewer and point out a player who got injured without being fouled first.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/30/2017 8:25:30 AM

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