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Underdog in playoffs : advantage ?

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39569.11 in reply to 39569.10
Date: 7/20/2008 3:11:22 PM
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CT lowers the enthusiasm by 50%, TIE raises it by 33%, do your own math
Is this in the rules or is it known by experince? (As said I have never played CT, and if it is in the rules I must have missed it...)

Anyway one must take into consideration the changes between matches laso to get a correct calculation, but thi is not too complicated.

I have no idea whether it is in the rules, but it is a pretty well-known fact.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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39569.12 in reply to 39569.11
Date: 7/20/2008 3:18:32 PM
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Ok, I'll see if I come to a situation next year when it makes sense to me to confirm it. This far i never had any real reason to use it during rengular season, and in the playoffs I wont see the effect anyway.

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Date: 7/20/2008 4:31:12 PM
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You will hardly find opportunities to use it during regular season. Certainly not at the League (unless you have a really favorable schedule, such as playing 1st in the league, then 8th and 7th in a row or something, but then again, if you need CT to beat 1st place you might not be able to beat 8th at TIE with low enthusiasm). The POCT and PON pretty much ended with the possibility of CT. Specially because right now, getting into playoffs with high enthusiasm is HUGE, so you will hardly see anyone with a chance at making it into the playoff CT at the last 5 or 6 games or so...
I'm not saying it was a bad decision or anything, just stating the situation.

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Date: 7/21/2008 1:35:33 AM
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Yes, I know, but I still would be interested in getting the opportunity of trying it out, but as you say finding that opportunity is not easy.

(In general I thing the whole enthusiasm thing is a quite clumpsy feature, that should be removed and replaced by some smarter tactical tools)

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Date: 7/21/2008 8:52:58 AM
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(In general I thing the whole enthusiasm thing is a quite clumpsy feature, that should be removed and replaced by some smarter tactical tools)

Actually, it's pretty straightforward and not clumsy at all. You can accuse it of having multiple other problem, but I don't think clumsiness is one of them.

Also, plenty of people say "it has be replaced by something smarter", yet I haven't seen one viable suggestion. And no, "let's scrap enthusiasm altogether" is not a viable suggestion ;)


Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 7/21/2008 8:56:10 AM

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39569.16 in reply to 39569.15
Date: 7/21/2008 1:21:09 PM
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Of course it is straightforward and easy to use, but I still I think it is a clumsy, almost pathetic attempt, of trying to add a "strategical/tactical" tool. Apparently we do not agree there.

I actually like the way that BB has solved it with game shape compared to HTs form, and I think they could do somethingin line with this in order to add some smarter enthusiasm system (enthusiasm is kind of "team spirit game shape") . Anyway, I think that's off topic...

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Date: 7/21/2008 3:13:13 PM
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I think it is a clumsy, almost pathetic attempt, of trying to add a "strategical/tactical" tool. Apparently we do not agree there.


I think almost nobody agrees with you here. I'm looking forward to your well thought idea in the suggestion forum already.

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39569.18 in reply to 39569.17
Date: 7/21/2008 3:17:34 PM
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It's so nice with ironic GMs. ;)

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39569.19 in reply to 39569.16
Date: 7/21/2008 4:02:48 PM
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I actually like the way that BB has solved it with game shape compared to HTs form, and I think they could do somethingin line with this in order to add some smarter enthusiasm system (enthusiasm is kind of "team spirit game shape") . Anyway, I think that's off topic...

Having in mind that game shape is almost identical in structure and function to form, I am not quite what the superior part is.

Of course, players here don't whine, because BB is cosmetically different here. IF players receive enough minutes, they rarely if ever hit very low game shape levels. However, for all practical purposes, having a player in respectable game shape (and this happens even if their minutes are well-managed) is like having a HT player in weak form.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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39569.20 in reply to 39569.19
Date: 7/21/2008 4:14:18 PM
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Having in mind that game shape is almost identical in structure and function to form, I am not quite what the superior part is.
I actually think that there are essential differences, even tough they are not big (HT: Just give them minutes, BB give them the right amount of minutes), and it could still be improved. Anyway, as I said I dont think this is the thread to debate this, so I wont go further into this.

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39569.21 in reply to 39569.19
Date: 7/21/2008 8:37:37 PM
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However, for all practical purposes, having a player in respectable game shape (and this happens even if their minutes are well-managed) is like having a HT player in weak form.


This is an interesting point.

My immediate reaction is to agree but I wouldnt know how to prove it right.... how did you arrive at this conclusion...



Last edited by Superfly Guy at 7/21/2008 8:38:02 PM

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