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From: docend24

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56775.11 in reply to 56775.10
Date: 11/8/2008 11:18:49 AM
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Using thiese forums:)

Well, get familiar with weekly schedule, realize when you pay for players and staff and when you use them.


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56775.12 in reply to 56775.9
Date: 11/8/2008 11:08:37 PM
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a) you are training good players too, it is not wasting; and these two attributes usually pops quicker


b) assuming you would train ft/stamina sooner or later so why not now


because it trains the complete team, to train it for ~4 guys is pretty inefficient .. I am sure you won't tell people to train inside shot for SF/PF/C if just on C get the full 48 minutes ant the other players are far away from efficient minutes.(in this case i would go for training c only or team training)

So better train it when you got an rooster, who you gonna use your player longer not just 3 players or even could sell then with an raised value of this training ...

c) it is probable that ft and stamina won't raise salaries as much as improvemen in other attributes do and we are just before a raise of salaries (at thestart of the season - once per season)


a single skill raise in a skill betwenn mediocore and strong won't raise the salarie significant to, maybe you could consider thinks like that with id training from centers with skills around 10.

d) there is a lack of matches so it is more difficult to get 48+ minutes for all your players who you want to train


the games are unimportant so give me a reason not to try it? When you don't get because of injuries fouls and so on you could still train stamina or free throws ... If you got such bad weeks are excellent times to train those skills.

e) level of a trainer doesn't count in team training


i won't be totally sure about it, and even a level three coach don't cost money too and give you good results, and will increase the player value more fpor 6-7 bucks with the firing fee.

g)fts can be crucial at the ends of close matches and it is good not to have players with atrocious FT at the end of game (luckily opponent don't foul the worst FT shooters on purpose as I can guess but still)


with better skills he win the game, or have the chanche to win it because he could compete ;)

I would say efficient training for four players in a skill is a way more effective then in stamina or free throws for the same one ... Ok maybe he is a little stronger the first five six games of the enxt season, but afterwards he would become weaker.

f) he will get 3 prospect from draft and should decide according to what he got (and if he has enough inforamtion and a sufficient position in draft, maybe he should draft accordingly (to get current best candidate for trainng a promising fellow at the same position))


whats the problem with it ;) He got increased value with the other one, instead of the same vvlaue for the 1k or firing class. Andd with the right draft a lot of thos players get useless.

h) he can't discarded all not ideal players now, he has to have some players to play with and counting with some injuries; of course the weekest should be fired (sold) to save some money.


Ok you win team training without players is the best :) I suppose it becomes better when you got more players who profitate from it, maybe single postion training makes the most sense with a thirty person rooster.


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56775.13 in reply to 56775.12
Date: 11/9/2008 9:22:26 AM
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I give up. *roll eyes*
What you would do? Because you suggesting opposite things. And read the rules about "e)" the training section. I can confirm that they are right in this case.

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56775.14 in reply to 56775.13
Date: 11/9/2008 9:55:39 AM
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in the german ones there stand something like "nearly" and that could mean a lot, and i write what i would do because i see nealry no sense to waste a mass training for 4-5 players(and this suggestion is pretty high for a beginning rooster, i got 2 mates who started a few weeks ago who had maybe 5 player who cost more then 10k but only one or two of with potential to get expensive players)

And even with skilltraining the effects are badly research and we got a pretty promising trainee in our u21 database who get pretty much training from an "old" level 7(now 3-4) coach and he is several skills in front of other candidates in his age.

And even in the 10 class a addiitional skill makes no different, these guys startet with single positon training and bought a third trainee for 40-50k€ a level 3 or 4 coach ... And their players increase their value and they could change their training after the draft easily, and they are in a stronger position till that point.

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56775.15 in reply to 56775.14
Date: 11/9/2008 10:01:48 AM
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Again, what you would supossed to do in his case? I don't care about German divisions it's irrelevant for this topic. I want hear from you what you would supposed to do and then I can argue. And we are not talking what he should do in the new season/ long term that's completely different thing.

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56775.16 in reply to 56775.15
Date: 11/9/2008 10:15:57 AM
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i would do the best for his progress, and that have nothing to do with german diviison that are just my experience with starting rooster.

And the best thing is to get a good rooster fast and for this he need money and quality and such thing he doesn't gain with stamina training for two players, with two "good" player it makes more sense to train then specific ...(else they would be overpowered, but in my eyes they but i would go that they are a bit weaker then two position training, and i would say this in cases with a normal sized rooster with quality in it)

In my eyes ft and stamina are pretty weak training for single players who just getting attractive through the point that they train much players and are indepent from the minute, but i would always try to get skilltraining before you get a bit quality in the mass from your players.