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90007.11 in reply to 90007.10
Date: 5/16/2009 8:26:30 PM
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What about the lesser drop in STH for next season, and therefore the much higher income in the coming season that outshines the income from just 1 more match?

From: Emilio
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90007.12 in reply to 90007.11
Date: 5/16/2009 10:24:28 PM
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but its no difference than finishing 8th, you will also not have any matches just like if you finish 5th, at least if you finish 5th you will be staying in that league.
i finished 6th and was really hoping to finish 5th, yes i agree there should be something for the 5th and 8th position as you dont get an income for a few weeks, but finishing 6th i now have that chance i could be relegated and if i am i cant afford to keep the players i have as my home games wont earn as much and my merchandise wont be as much, so i would prefer to lose 2 weeks income than lose alot more the next season

From: Shanmag
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90007.13 in reply to 90007.11
Date: 5/16/2009 11:10:38 PM
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The two 5th place teams should play each other so they can earn some income in these weeks.

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90007.14 in reply to 90007.13
Date: 5/17/2009 1:06:51 AM
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Absolutely...not a problem I have to worry about, but this should definitely be how it's done.

From: LA-Nir

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90007.15 in reply to 90007.12
Date: 5/17/2009 3:19:55 AM
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the 8 place at list have a good draft peak i finished 5 and have an 8th place the 8th place can score a great first peak and beside the 8th place did finished last in the season so you do need to get "punished" although i do agreey that one more game if will be issued to the 5th place need to be the same to the 8th place as well

Get your facts firs then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain
From: Kukoc

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90007.16 in reply to 90007.1
Date: 5/17/2009 4:59:21 AM
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Well are you sure you would want the 6-th place when you know guys from the other side of the league table are stronger than you. I looked at your situation. You have been managing youre enthusiasm they have not (what if they had?). You would be sure to relegate if you would have ended up 6-th. 5-th place means you will be staing in the league (with higher income) for sure. 4-th 3-d place get one game (mostly) with 1/3 game income. That's actually nothing much. Let's say you make it to the 1-st league of you're country. Would you want that 5-th place then?

From: LA-Nir

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90007.17 in reply to 90007.16
Date: 5/17/2009 5:12:20 AM
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if you have bean looking at my situation you can see that the team in the 7th place dose manage there enthusiasm and not nesseserly batter then me in the only game we had so far thy beat me yes but it was CT v TE and home court for them and won tactically and i had 2 starters injured so yes i think i am willing to take the chance in the 6th place rather then the 5th place
and you know what my county have a weird situation the team in the 6th place in the first D did try to get there on purpose

i am looking at my situation and as it seams the way the teams on the other side on the conference i am 95% positive that as i know them i can beat both the 6th and the 7h place and even more as i know i am 5th place i soled few of my players so you cant be sure that thy are stronger then i am and you know what? 1/3 of the money that 4th place get is normaly (if you manage your team right) abut the money you need to pay your players and staff so yah it is an even week and i rather one like that then one that i need to sell 6 players and have no draft outcomes just so i can do a 35k lose and the 4th place have a chance to beat the 1th place to go one for another 1/3 money and even more if you want you can look at my league (i wasent here last season) last season and see that my house 4th place last season got in to the finales and had 3 games so you can get potentialy more then 1/3

Get your facts firs then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain
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90007.18 in reply to 90007.17
Date: 5/17/2009 5:18:49 AM
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I completely agree... I've finished 2 seasons in a row in 5th place... it's the worst thing that can happen to a team... no incomes for 3 weeks is a death sentence for some teams... better off finishing in 6th place and at least get some incomes and a better draft pick...

"Dont get mad, Get even" -Robert F. Kennedy
From: Kukoc

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90007.19 in reply to 90007.17
Date: 5/17/2009 5:50:38 AM
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You missed the point. Would you go for the 6-th place if you knew they are better than you? To me it seems you failed to get to the 4-th and now started to rant here. Get better so you can make the playoffs. Guys who play below the line have the chance to relegate and can you actually say any of those 4 below the line in you're league are actually safe? Have you looked at youre countrys top division? Atleast in Estonia the guys who promoted are all facing relegation. Do you think they did not try to get that 5-th place. When you promote to the division above you would do anything to atleast get that 5-th spot.

From: LA-Nir

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90007.20 in reply to 90007.19
Date: 5/17/2009 6:01:23 AM
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i didn't fail to get to the 4th place as it wasn't my goal in the first place i was aiming to the 6 place from the beginning of the season the only thing i failed at was to get to the 6th place i am giving you have real situation that a team in my D.1 finished 6 in the full knowlege that the team in the 7th place have a good chance of beating them (this is the same team who beat them in the semmiy in the cup) so yes i think most teams will rather take the chance in the 6th place and if you look one post above you have a team in my first D who finished 5th in season 6-7 and tells you that yes thy rather have finished 6

Get your facts firs then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain
From: LA-Nir

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90007.21 in reply to 90007.19
Date: 5/17/2009 6:22:05 AM
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you know what ill add few things this is your second season here right? in your first season you got promoted to D.III after a TB this season you are the leader of your league so you have a good chance of doing this all over again right? you want to know what was my situation before this season ? lets see i started in the middle of season 6 i got promoted to D.III at the end of the season and after it in season 7 i got promoted to D.II after 3 games and yes i hope to you the same thing and after it i hope you wont get demoted to D.III and finish 5th in season 9 and will see how you will talk after it

now to the subject again

pros/cons
pros

5th place - you 100% don't get relegated (if you finish 6/7 you don't automatically relegate either)
6th/7th place- batter draft pikes at list one (if not 2) weeks of extra training game and more money

cons
5th place- you finished your season no more official games if you had away games in your last 2 games and it happens and/or you start the season with away game you can have as much as 5!!! weeks with no income you have at list 1 week less training then the teams who got kicked out in the upper playoff but lets scratch that you have at list one week less training if not 2 then the teams who finished 6/7 middle cared draft pike

6th/7th pace- you have a chance to relegate and most likely dominant the lower division the next season have a financial season no go back stronger and batter the season after it

Last edited by LA-Nir at 5/17/2009 6:36:44 AM

Get your facts firs then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain
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