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From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 4/28/2012 7:41:36 PM
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Still the best value in training is training the players for yourself. Depending on the level of the team, potential varies. DivI starter needs atleast superstar potential, in case you want to add a few skills to them while they play for your team.


This, I entirely agree with. It is far better to create players that are distinctive than have to pay the premium to acquire them.

From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 4/28/2012 8:55:32 PM
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never said they train slower 'cuz potential, said they train slower 'cuz you using a crummy trainer.
2 position training in all primaries and capping them in 2 season's...HAHAHAHA that plaeyrs is wroth 2k on the market, seriously. I thought the whole premise of even having ANY value in a player was having some secondaries.


My fault for not being clear. I meant that there were two seasons of 2 pos and 1 (well, really more 2.25 v. .75) of one position, though I again intentionally held back some training for some skills to avoid capping them. Just because you have no use for guys in the 15k salary range doesn't mean that nobody else does, though.

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Date: 4/28/2012 9:07:57 PM
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Yes. And none of those players have any business being on a team in USA's V because their salaries are way too high. Heck, just the first two combined have more weekly salary than my entire team as I came out of V, and I could have probably shaved some salary still considering how easily I promoted. The top three really shouldn't appear on a well-built team in IV, either - I had one 25k guy and everyone else around 16k or less as I promoted out of IV.

I mean, sure, if your idea of lower level is II.whatever, yeah, you can surely afford a 120k+ salary for a fairly new team. But if you're advocating that new players go out and buy 20k players, you're simply too unfamiliar with lower level finances in larger countries and maybe you should leave the discussions about those to people who *do* understand.


Salary levels really depend on the competition in the league. I have 3 other teams in my salary range in my D4 league. I wouldn't be competitive with a 25k guy and 16k- guys.


Well, if you're going to pay over 26k a week for a power forward that has 7 assists vs. over 200 turnovers in all games over the past four seasons and I am not at all surprised you've got to spend that much. Less rebounding and more handling/passing and the player will cost you less and you'll have more possession by cutting out the turnovers than you do with the extra rebounds. And yet with all your salary you can't put up better defensive ratings than that?

[edit - that comes across harsher than I intended, and he's far less egregious than some. Usually, though, the guys that have the 50k+ players in IV are going to have mostly beatable teams and often have guys who have salaries that greatly outpace their contribution. A guy in my IV last season had a 70k center and couldn't make the playoffs.]

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 4/28/2012 9:14:16 PM

From: tough
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Date: 4/29/2012 2:29:56 AM
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Well, what I do is try and get luck from the draft. Then if I don't I just go to the TL. I always want to find an Allstar and up. If not P-Allstar or even a cheap Superstar. I notice that the Superstar potential guys that are cheap weren't trained too good. I also want to have them at like average and up at thier core skills. Potential does count in training, it's just how long. I think star and below is till 23-23. Alllstar to superstar is like 24-25. MVP and up is 26-27 I think.

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