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From: Kukoc

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Date: 10/15/2010 5:44:43 PM
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it is not about making 5 top notch player affordable, but it is about making then usefull for a strat and maybe give a team to afford to off them with solid teammates.
Now here you should of said: yes I think having 5 of those players should be the goal. Making 2 of them useable right now would be the best.
I understood what the other managers ment. I just could not comprehend your thoughts. Like I said in this thread...
Asking for a team to really uphold 5 of those unreal players + subs + staff, is pardon my french: idiotic.
You seriously can't expect to create a team of unreal players, that have received single position training (for 3 skills) by lvl7 trainer for 5-7 seasons. Where is the managing part in that kind of game? Just save enough money to get those 5 players and then steamroll over everybody until they turn 35? BB's never intended this to happen, that's why they capped arenas -> creating a cap for team salary.

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How many players does BB have in your opinion. How many players of that playerbase are demanding 300-400k salary? Highest-skilled players are guys with most skills, hardly any of those 300-400k salary players are well rounded.

From: CrazyEye

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why are the players unreal, and what difference does it make when you trin 6-7 skills with level 7 trainer over 5-7 season?

In both cases you should gain an advantage from it, but actual even U21 centers are trained to loose value so training makes players worse then better, because of their salary.

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How many players does BB have in your opinion. How many players of that playerbase are demanding 300-400k salary? Highest-skilled players are guys with most skills, hardly any of those 300-400k salary players are well rounded.


That's because of the salary formula,not because there is not one good trainer in the BB world

TRAIN SMARTER DOESN'T MEAN STOP TRAINING THEIR PLAYERS!

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I think that only few hundreds of that playerbase have a salary above 300k
And that there are enough teams that could potentially afford them,because if we sum all the teams of the I division all over the BB world,we reach over 1k team with high incomes
A good part of these players are the best in their role,and their managers have care to not train them in skills with low perfomrance/cost ratio(like shot blocking for big mans)

So the question is:why many I division teams all over the world chose to not have them in their team?

Because they would lose competitivity,we agreed on this point
The fact that I find quite strange is that a team can't afford ONE of these players,while having the rest of the line-up made by competitive players
For example:
350/180/140/120/100
80/70/60/50/40
20(young trainee)



Last edited by Steve Karenn at 10/15/2010 6:26:54 PM

From: Kukoc

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Training 6-7 skills makes a huge difference. They are not pushing for insane heights and are training players for actual use.
If you overtrain, obviously you lose value.

From: Rycka
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Date: 10/15/2010 7:27:21 PM
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this thread is rubbish. LA-Kukoc pointed out something, that needs closer attention. this is it:

How can you question the game creators Lebron?


how can you ? :)

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Date: 10/15/2010 7:37:37 PM
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TRAIN SMARTER DOESN'T MEAN STOP TRAINING THEIR PLAYERS!
No it means, also train secondarys, or when the salary is starting to get out of hand, switch training spot/trainee or train stamina/FT/GS.
The fact that I find quite strange is that a team can't afford ONE of these players
As I already said, divI teams can afford them. Smart managers just are not willing to trade off strenght in every other spot to use them. Can you blame them?
You obviously can't stop NT player trainers, but one thing they should understand is: they should not be training those players thinking about later profit to their team, it's a one way street and all downhill at a certain point. Also any manager who wants to compete in a salary cap manager game, should stop fantasizing about those pushed to maximum NT "freaks".

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Date: 10/16/2010 7:27:01 AM
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TRAIN SMARTER DOESN'T MEAN STOP TRAINING THEIR PLAYERS!
No it means, also train secondarys, or when the salary is starting to get out of hand, switch training spot/trainee or train stamina/FT/GS.
Yes,but a top level center however requires a certain level in the primary skills that bring a level of salary that can't be under a certain point

The fact that I find quite strange is that a team can't afford ONE of these players
As I already said, divI teams can afford them. Smart managers just are not willing to trade off strenght in every other spot to use them.

It's exactly the point,and you just confirm that the system don't work for these players
I would understand if div I team would want 2 or 3 of these players chosing to sacrifice talent in other spots or in the bench,but that a top team are forced to not afford one of them,leaving them in the farms,it's against the logic that the strongest players should play in the strongest teams


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Date: 10/16/2010 7:31:36 AM
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this thread is rubbish. LA-Kukoc pointed out something, that needs closer attention. this is it:

How can you question the game creators Lebron?


how can you ? :)

Your post is rubbish.If you not have argument to explain your thoughts,just not talk

The point of this thread is not Lebron,that was just used as example.La-Kukoc explains his phrase with argumtns,I don't agree with him,but he use some reasoning

Your post just not have it.This is not a personal attack againt you as manager or as user,this is an attack againt thiis post in this thread

From: Rycka

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Date: 10/16/2010 9:53:41 AM
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We need to seperate two things here, which are the best players (1) and the highest wages (2).

The best players will not earn the most. You need to see the salary as a scale where players are being put in. A 500k player now, will probably not be a 500k player a few seasons from now (he will most certainly earn less, unless suddenly global income dramatically increases). As we expect some people will keep creating monoskilled monsters, the bunch of top end salary players (who again, are not the best players) will be monoskilled. This means that the best players, the better trained multiskilled ones, will earn less.

So in the end we'll see the best players being sold for the highest prices. These players will never earn 500k/wk since the monoskilled monsters will always fill the top end of the salary scale. This means the best players are affordable for top teams within their salary budget, thus their market price will go up. It's logical that the monoskilled top end salary monster will be sold for less since he's a worse player (and got a higher salary).


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question this.

Last edited by Rycka at 10/16/2010 9:54:09 AM

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