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Yes, but you are once and again saying that domestic league is not your issue, that you are speaking about B3 only, that you want to have more options in that comeptition, I want to say you that you can´t separate one for another. You can´t take the best of every world and make a mix. You can´t have the advenatages that small countries teams have and at the same time the advantages that the big countries teams have.
Like some peaople have said it´s evident small countries teams are not in a disadvantage in B3. Here in spain any team has never won that competition and for every competitive team that in some countries are here are 10 maybe, it´s noly a mathemathics question. But I would bet that never any team here will win it, although we are a lot of users. We must be the worst managers in the whole world. Or maybe is that your are wrong and that is easier to win the B3 in a small countriy.

And one more argument from us (ugly guys from big countries) ;-)
In my coutry few times Cup was won by team not playing in top division. And these teams played in B3 but they had incomes on 2nd league level. And trust me, incomes in 2nd division in big country are much lower than incomes in 1st division in small country. So how could these teams compete in B3? They had no chance...
But they didn't open new thread to prove that they needed more money.
So I have idea - because it's possible that 5th division team can win Cup in big country, so incomes in 1st league in Cymru should be the same as incomes in 5th league in big countries (because 1st league in Cymru is practically bottom level, because in lower divisions in Your country no alive team exists, only bots. It will be fair.

BTW - does somebody know or could somebody check whether/how many teams from 2nd or lower divisions play in current B3 tournament?

D3 - (51802)

D2 - (26163)
(94276)

I think that's all..

Last edited by Phantum at 8/21/2011 11:07:35 AM

Granted, Div 2 income is a lot lower than Div 1, but my argument is for Teams in DivI, not II. If I was in the DivII & won the Cup I would be happy at that, as I wouldn't be looking for that again next season. In DivI I have a chance to get back next season hence the looking for consistency.
As for team in 5th division winning Cup, I haven't looked, but I would almost gurantee no one has done that, so that's kind of a null point.
Thanks Ugly guy ;)

but my argument is for Teams in DivI, not II.

No, Your arguments were for B3 competition, not for league or cup competition. Now You changed Your arguments.

If I was in the DivII & won the Cup I would be happy

What is difference to win cup if You are in 1st league instead of in 2nd league? You don't want to talk about good arguments for whole game, You want to talk about arguments good only for You.
If You have less incomes than other team in B3 - it's unfair for You. But if other team in B3 has less incomes than You - it's fair for You.

I have another idea and You should be happy, because this idea solves every problem - it gives chance for teams in small country to have better TV contract but it doesn't give unearned advantage. Every team created in 1st league in Cymru has TV contracts and marchendise on 5th league level. If this team win 1st league then his TV contracts and marchendise will increase to 4th league level. Etc, etc, and finally if this team win 1st league four times then his incomes will be on 1st league level. It will be fair. Because in big country if team is created in 5th division he has to be promoted 4 times (without relegation) to have incomes on 1st league level.

Last edited by B.B.King at 8/22/2011 6:18:58 AM

No, I actually never stated one way or the other, but to clarify......It's about my team & the Div I am in

I want to talk about "arguments" relative to me not "what if's & how about this" & it would only be unfair if most of the other teams in B3 where from DivII, then of course there is a parity between competitiors, but that isn't the case. Most teams in B3 are from other countries DivI's. Again, I'm not nessacarly saying there is anything wrong with the current setup, I was more looking for what it was I was missing as I thought I had covered all the bases. You know Crazyeye answered my question over a week ago.....right?

If you knew something that answered all the problems, why did you hold on to it for so long?
As for the solution, It's not a bad idea, but not a good one either.

Last edited by ClipCap at 8/22/2011 9:55:11 AM

For me current system is good. This idea is only for You.

Seems like everyone on here just wants to argue with you. I thought the relevant discussion ended weeks ago but people keep wanting to talk about other things.

Yeap, pretty much & I was only asking a question!!! lol
+1

Sorry, I missed your post. Didn't want you to think I was ignoring you
How can it be easier if other teams bring in more money than me? They can carry higher wages, have a deeper squad, move up world ranking so get the easier draw in B3 etc.
My Enthusium doesn't carry over & if it does, your current League Champ is playing TIE alot & still winning, I have them on Wednesday in what will be my first loss I'm sure. So I'm not seeing the advantage. There maybe one, but it's not making sense to me what you & BB King are saying. Money is money, you have more you can do more.
I can play cheaper players in my country to save my starters to play teams in B3. But their Starters are already better than mine cause of salary I cannot hold, unless I want to go Bankrupt. The average, average! salary of teams through the Table stage last season for B3 was $850k, or so. I'm maxed on $771k. Now I believe this is because of the World Ranking system, which I think is floored, so because I play lower teams, more often than not, I don't get those Gate Reciepts that others teams in the same division as me, playing the same Ranked team in there country as me, get.
Again, I'm not stating any kind of FACT, just what I am seeing at the moment, I have said that so many times now. So if there is something I am missing, please tell me. As I said before I thought I had all the bases covered, but that would not appear to be the case, so I'm trying to see what I have over looked.