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From: oriolekid

To: Coco
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199844.113 in reply to 199844.112
Date: 11/3/2011 7:08:00 PM
LionPride
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You beat me before I could edit.

I was kidding with that comment 100%.
I believe it is silly to tell a tell a manager that there are certain ways you can't train your player.

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199844.115 in reply to 199844.101
Date: 11/3/2011 7:27:16 PM
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I think everyone here may be overrating driving, I've never seen a huge value in it, along with rebounding.



Looking at the U21 players, I do not think that people are overrating driving. There is one good passer, but he does not have much of any other skills.

I also disagree with rebounding being overrated. If you get out rebounded you will lose the game most of the time. If you look at any games, you will see that the winner usually outrebounds the other team and if one team is more dominant in rebouding, they will win the game by more.

Last edited by Buckeyefan01 at 11/3/2011 7:27:36 PM

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199844.116 in reply to 199844.115
Date: 11/3/2011 7:45:53 PM
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If you get out rebounded you will lose the game most of the time. If you look at any games, you will see that the winner usually outrebounds the other team and if one team is more dominant in rebouding, they will win the game by more.

You know, this is very interesting. I decided to test out this method on some other things. Did you know that the team that makes more shots than the other team also seems to win most of the time? Amazing, the team with more assists ALSO! seems to win most of the time. And this one's hard to believe, but the team that plays better defense and prevents the other team from making more shots, you guessed it, seems to win most of the time!

Point being, more of any skill is ALWAYS better. The question has to be, which is *more* important? In this case, are you suggesting that guards should get more rebounding training at the expense of js, od, pa, etc? I'm not saying I agree or disagree, but I think that's a very unusual recommendation when discussing u21 players who need to maximize their training time, so I'd like to hear you defend this.

From: shikago
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199844.117 in reply to 199844.115
Date: 11/3/2011 7:46:24 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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I'm not sure what this election is about or who's running.
That's said, are paper ballots available? I'd love for this election to come down to hanging chads & recounts.

From: Isaiah
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199844.118 in reply to 199844.117
Date: 11/3/2011 7:49:45 PM
Smallfries
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I feel like there is a lot of negative tension in the thread....

From: wozzvt

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Date: 11/3/2011 7:51:34 PM
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I feel like there is a lot of negative tension in the thread....

Hey, we spend all season being polite (more or less) on the offsite waiting for this thread to let it out!

From: Isaiah

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199844.120 in reply to 199844.119
Date: 11/3/2011 7:53:12 PM
Smallfries
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lol ok that works then as long as it leads to people voting

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199844.121 in reply to 199844.117
Date: 11/3/2011 8:05:32 PM
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haha, yes!

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199844.122 in reply to 199844.116
Date: 11/3/2011 8:31:04 PM
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If you get out rebounded you will lose the game most of the time. If you look at any games, you will see that the winner usually outrebounds the other team and if one team is more dominant in rebouding, they will win the game by more.

You know, this is very interesting. I decided to test out this method on some other things. Did you know that the team that makes more shots than the other team also seems to win most of the time? Amazing, the team with more assists ALSO! seems to win most of the time. And this one's hard to believe, but the team that plays better defense and prevents the other team from making more shots, you guessed it, seems to win most of the time!

Point being, more of any skill is ALWAYS better. The question has to be, which is *more* important? In this case, are you suggesting that guards should get more rebounding training at the expense of js, od, pa, etc? I'm not saying I agree or disagree, but I think that's a very unusual recommendation when discussing u21 players who need to maximize their training time, so I'd like to hear you defend this.


Giving 90 points to a player :

I would prefer (Player A) 12/11/15/10/12/9/6/4/7/4
over
(Player B) 13/12/15/11/12/11/5/4/3/4

Reason being, Player A will be able to get rebounds while still being able to score inside and outside.


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