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206866.112 in reply to 206866.110
Date: 2/6/2012 11:46:42 AM
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I am not sure whether the fixes are "relatively easy" or not. Perhaps the computer programming work is easy, but as developers of a game with 30 or 40 thousand people playing, making decisions based on 100 people's comments is not such an easy decision. Just because some people are vocal does not mean they should be given priority. It is my understanidng that keeping some sort of order is very imortant in these large programming projects. Swithcing things up based on user subgroup size might be more difficult or use more resources than we assume.

And while I disagree that we shoud limit the numbers of the different divisions based on country size, I heartily agree with the suggestion that new teams begin no higher than division 3, even if it means bots fill d.1 and d.2.

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206866.113 in reply to 206866.112
Date: 2/6/2012 1:21:47 PM
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making decisions based on 100 people's comments is not such an easy decision. Just because some people are vocal does not mean they should be given priority.


Well you could start a poll to find out how the games population feels about certain things. Try to be creative...

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Date: 2/6/2012 3:48:28 PM
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making decisions based on 100 people's comments is not such an easy decision. Just because some people are vocal does not mean they should be given priority.


Well you could start a poll to find out how the games population feels about certain things. Try to be creative...
And that poll will be answered by the same ~50 users (and I am on the very optimistic side...).

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Date: 2/6/2012 4:10:33 PM
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making decisions based on 100 people's comments is not such an easy decision. Just because some people are vocal does not mean they should be given priority.


Well you could start a poll to find out how the games population feels about certain things. Try to be creative...
And that poll will be answered by the same ~50 users (and I am on the very optimistic side...).


then better do nothing ... as we never will have a major opinion

1) Having that kind of poll is close to nothing - 50 out of 50K , and biased 50 are close to 0...

2) When answering polls will be part of the game - when one will not answer a poll (that will be informed to all), he will be fined (for example) - it may work.
Just using polls as it is will not do any good.

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206866.117 in reply to 206866.113
Date: 2/6/2012 4:22:32 PM
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I think you and I both know that the response to a poll would still be under representative of the BB population. Perhaps a mailing asking us to reply to several questions could get a decent response, but then someone must come up with what few questions are most important and worthwhile for the community as a whole.

Let me ask you this. What are the main topics of discussion in the German forum? Do they basically mimic what goes on here in global? There are less than 10 regular German/Austrian posters here but I am sure there must be many more on your dedicated language forum. What are the pressing concerns there?

Perhaps there could be a 20th anniversary state-of-the-game questionnaire that could be sent out to all users. Information from said questionnaire could be used to help assess the direction of the game.

While I don't think a poll is the answer, I think you are on the right track and that some sort of site-wide questionnaire would be valuable.

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206866.119 in reply to 206866.117
Date: 2/6/2012 4:42:12 PM
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Let me ask you this. What are the main topics of discussion in the German forum? Do they basically mimic what goes on here in global? There are less than 10 regular German/Austrian posters here but I am sure there must be many more on your dedicated language forum. What are the pressing concerns there?

Perhaps there could be a 20th anniversary state-of-the-game questionnaire that could be sent out to all users. Information from said questionnaire could be used to help assess the direction of the game.

While I don't think a poll is the answer, I think you are on the right track and that some sort of site-wide questionnaire would be valuable.


the main topics are suggestions and training/box score delays, so I guess its pretty much the same as global. Recently the germans became a little thin-skinned, dunno why tbh.

Creating a poll is no big deal, but it is useless if you cant put in hours and hours of work to analyse the results, draw the right conclusions and take the necessary measures. I am not so sure if there are the capacities to do this.

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206866.121 in reply to 206866.120
Date: 2/7/2012 5:49:46 AM
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I don't think that it's that they don't care per se... I would suggest that it's simple apathy.
"Caring/not caring" would intimate that some consideration has occurred - and I don't think that's what's going on.

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206866.122 in reply to 206866.121
Date: 2/12/2012 2:07:49 AM
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A poll isn't needed.

It doesn't matter if 100 people think it is a problem or if one person thinks so.

The BBs are smart guys, they made this fantastic game, they can look at the situation and use their brilliant game developer minds.

Is there a problem or at the VERY least a percieved problem?

Can't be denied.

Is there an unbelievably simple solution that would take minimal coding and a trivial effort that has already been suggested?

Yes. Change one line of code somewhere that says that new teams start in 2.1 and edit it to 3.1.

I can't remember who suggested this change but it totally changes things. Players will start in 3.1 with other players but in an easy competition. When they promote they will end up in a random division 2 not all bunched up. Teams stuck in 2.1 can even aim for relegation, then when promoted again in the bot cleanup will have a 3/4 chance of not being in 2.1. It gives the new 3.1 teams a chance at some sense of short term achievement in winning a championship and then a better chance to also win a division 2 championship.

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