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231460.112 in reply to 231460.111
Date: 2/16/2013 3:46:19 PM
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+19 after three quarters => no garbage time => my players have played too much => risk of a bad GS next week.

Why? Because: Royal Canin looked like the only team trying out there when he was sure to be in PO.

I won't forget that, and I don't think Arlon needed that.



Joe, remember, it's a game. Some managers prefer to help others. i remember one manager that you pissed off, who would CT you each time he got the chance :P maybe you pissed off Bradok for some reason?

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231460.114 in reply to 231460.113
Date: 2/17/2013 3:51:14 AM
Royal Canin
III.3
Overall Posts Rated:
1717
Nothing personal at all... Well i did expect this reaction because Joe use to moan each time someone try to win against him due to the fact that he is so strong that teams used to lay down before him each time... Its been two weeks that i told that i don' expect anwthing from the PO... I ve sold my best player, some of my player has plaid more than 100 min last week so has bad GS,... How can i expect to win a game away against Mizu with a difference of only one level of enthousiasm possible in PO ? My last chance to win a game was that time, thats all.... Like the time Revo has wom against you on the first game of the season, you took it personal and moan on the forum saying that is a disgace to try to win against you... I don't care who is the last team i play against in the regular season, if i fiinish 5th or if i don't have any chance to win in PO or PD i play CT the last game, that's all.... even if a know that the guy will moan, i won't change it, each victory increase the ranking and so the forthcoming attendance so i don't know why i would refuse to try to win... Beside it's the fourth time of the season that i plaid CT so nothing unusual... And the first time i did it against FTA, it allow you to win at my arena, so pretending that this is personnal is a bit unfair. You said that it won't be forgot, well i don't mind, i ve never expected someone to give me an easy victory and you should stop excepting that as well. Moroever, you have tell that you don't think that you could defeat Mizu. Why do you point this out so if it don't change anything for you? And would i hace done this to piss you out if you have pointed that you are not expecting a victory ?

You say that i don't accept critism ? i don't remeber any critism from you so once again, nothing personal here, just calendar opportunity

Last edited by Bradok at 2/17/2013 7:40:08 AM

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231460.116 in reply to 231460.115
Date: 2/17/2013 8:26:22 AM
Royal Canin
III.3
Overall Posts Rated:
1717
So you pretend that i have a little chance to win against Arlon without playing CT against you ? Serioulsy ? You know that its not true... Everyone in my position would know that i don't have any single chance to win against Arlon... With my bad GS, against the HCA, having aggregate salaries of one half of its, knowing that he has a good enthousiasme,... How can you ignore that this game was my last chance to win...

That is the kind of explanation which makes me laugh... Trying to justify any sentences instead of the main purpose of the post ... THERE IS ONLY ONE THINK TO KNOW : I have not a single chance to win against Mizu but i thought that i would had one against you in my arena knowing that you would play TIE... END OF THE TOPIC, moaning because "everyone one is against me, everyone one lay down before Arlon but has something personal againt me,..." is just ridiculous

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231460.118 in reply to 231460.117
Date: 2/17/2013 9:49:09 AM
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lol.

and here i was expecting another Ximes vs Joe outburst on the forum. common guy's, give a GM some fun to ban someone for bad behaviour on the forums :P ( joking around about the banning).

truth be told, i'm happy to reminds with that. just figured out one very annoying problem with having skype. It tried to dial the numbers joe refered to in his post :S gonna find a way to turn that off on my internet pages...

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231460.119 in reply to 231460.118
Date: 2/19/2013 6:54:37 AM
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lol.

and here i was expecting another Ximes vs Joe outburst on the forum. common guy's, give a GM some fun to ban someone for bad behaviour on the forums :P ( joking around about the banning).

truth be told, i'm happy to reminds with that. just figured out one very annoying problem with having skype. It tried to dial the numbers joe refered to in his post :S gonna find a way to turn that off on my internet pages...


In order to face Rev's expectations... I am briefly back on Joe's forum... Or BBBL's forum i meant...just to underline that the past last posts confirmed all i indicated during the above mentioned "outburst" session. Seasons are passing and the low fairplay attitudes and comments of Joe remain. Sure he will as usual reply in order to have the last word and it would be logical as it's HIS forum and seem not to have other things to do than be connected on BB. Fortunately it's not my case. :)

Suerte para todos for the PO and RL!

PS: Rev, would be an honor to be banned jointly with Vottem and his palmares ;)

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231460.120 in reply to 231460.119
Date: 2/19/2013 8:03:23 AM
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lol.

and here i was expecting another Ximes vs Joe outburst on the forum. common guy's, give a GM some fun to ban someone for bad behaviour on the forums :P ( joking around about the banning).

truth be told, i'm happy to reminds with that. just figured out one very annoying problem with having skype. It tried to dial the numbers joe refered to in his post :S gonna find a way to turn that off on my internet pages...


In order to face Rev's expectations... I am briefly back on Joe's forum... Or BBBL's forum i meant...just to underline that the past last posts confirmed all i indicated during the above mentioned "outburst" session. Seasons are passing and the low fairplay attitudes and comments of Joe remain. Sure he will as usual reply in order to have the last word and it would be logical as it's HIS forum and seem not to have other things to do than be connected on BB. Fortunately it's not my case. :)

Suerte para todos for the PO and RL!


well, just gonna point out: it ain't Joe's forum. he's just one manager who's slightely more active on the fora than others. But you need those kind of people to drag in the others for a conversation on your forum.

Joe's a competitor. it has it's advantages aswell as disadvantages. It forces everyone to up their game if they want to have shot at beating him, which imo is one of the many good things. Joe knows a lot about the game and shares his knowledge, so those certainly are positive things.

The downside is that he's sometimes 'overcompetitive'. Joe wants to compete and i'll admit, he could handle certain situations differently. I've got the impression that Joe wants to excell in what he does, and he doesn't always think his actions thru. Because of that, his intensions are sometimes misunderstood, but as far as i know, he has yet to break any rules.

Truth be told, i too make mistakes ( recently made a pretty big one). Everyone makes mistakes. it's how you try to make up for them which defines what type of person you are ( again, personal oppinion).

Everyone has other oppinions about Fairplay. Some find it unfair to make TIE-deals. I find it personally unfair not notifying my opponent if i'm throwing that game, because could screw up his training/minutes. That is a personal belief, one which many will consider as unfair. Just a personal belief of mine. I'm pretty sure plenty of BBBL managers got a mail when i was throwing a game.


PS: Rev, would be an honor to be banned jointly with Vottem and his palmares ;)


i know you dislike Joe, but i was kinda hoping that you'd use your 'quarrel' as fuel to get a better team to beat Joe in the BBBL, rather than being happy to get banned if Joe would get banned aswell.

Banning managers is always a sad thing. Guy's put effort into their teams, yet they didn't do it according to the rules. Banning a team means your undoing all the work that guy did to put his team together. Even if someone cheated, it's still frustrating to lose your team and having to start over again... So you could comparing banning someone as being fired form your job and having to start all over again. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like that, so please refrain from making such comments in the futur ;)


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231460.121 in reply to 231460.120
Date: 2/19/2013 9:59:32 AM
KV Forever
BBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
2121
I just want to add my opinion and a few statements on what's fair or not:

- In BBBL i have never got a mail with a proposal to TIE, nor did i sent one. I also never got a warning of someone that will TIE.
- However, in the past when i was in D.II i have made such proposals myself. I have sent mails to my next opponent to agree to a TIE deal.
- I don't see such proposals as unfair: both managers agree to something which is allowed by the game. And everyone is allowed to do it, so noone is left out.
- I can understand that a third managers can sometimes feels a disadvantage from such a deal between two other managers. But, he's free to do so himself and it's something that is allowed.

Above is related to game mechanics.

You can also start the discussion about ethics.
- The only rule there is: don't lie, stick to the rules (both game rules as rules that would be defined by a group)
+ Example: if an agreement is made for a TIE, i expect the managers to stick by it... else you are just lying.
+ Example: if on the BBBL forum an unofficial rule would be agreed upon to not ake any TIE deals: i expect everyone to stick to that rule: ... else you are just breaking your promise.

Just my 2 cents and some food for thought ;)

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