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9808.113 in reply to 9808.111
Date: 12/14/2007 10:10:59 AM
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I really don't think so. I think that player contracts of, for example, half a season would be better. If you break the contrct that's ok, but you wil then have to pay a penalty fee.


That is exactly what the agent fee does.

If you sell a guy immediately upon buying him, you're paying a 20% penalty.

Yes, but not to full extent. A 20% is a very low penalty for braking a contract. According to me the penalty should be a lot higher for braking a comtract during the first half season, and then start to decrease fast. after e.g. one season their should be no penalty at all according to me, because then you haven't broke any comtract. this would benefit those that are skilful in buying players and devleoping them, rather than those that just happen to have time (and patience) to DT/WT.

(actually I would like a feature where you could give your players longterm comtracts, and in that way decrease your salaries. If you would like to brrake the contract then that's fine, but you will have to pay a fine that i higher than the salary you saved during the contract period.)

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9808.114 in reply to 9808.108
Date: 12/14/2007 6:53:40 PM
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Why would restricting the number of transfers be unfair?

Why in the world would anyone need to make more than (to pull a number out of a hat) 5 trades in a week and in what way is it unfair?

Think of it as adding to the strategy element of the game, because then people have to figure out how best to utilize their allotment of trades, and players who cannot be online all the time are not alienated.

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9808.115 in reply to 9808.114
Date: 12/14/2007 11:04:26 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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We can say everything but we must admit that the reaction of the BB in this game is immediate when there are something to be corrected. Today we saw this with stamina, I think we will see soon other results also in the difficult trading field.
What about the possibility to put a tax in the base price? There isn't still an exact idea of the value of the players so who's using to day trade can only put an high price hoping that someone will offer; one offer means sure money. This taxation is useful but if I want to make some good profit I've only to raise a little bit the basis price. Putting a taxation on the basis price will reduce a little bit more the profit of everyone wants to speculate with the players.

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9808.116 in reply to 9808.115
Date: 12/14/2007 11:31:25 PM
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A tax does nothing to curb it, it only reduces the profits to be made. The only way a tax works is if it actually a tax, and not just a fee. Perhaps the taxes could go to the other players in the division, then it provides some real incentive to curb daytrading.

I still think the best way to deal with it is to simply limit the number of trades allowed. You could do it per week, per season, whatever, but it is the only real way to limit this problem with any type of fairness.

This way those who are good at recognizing profitable players on the market can still make a buck on trading, but it will not be the only economic factor of significance since other players can make money by selling players they've trained, or the old old-fashioned way....by winning and selling tickets.

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9808.117 in reply to 9808.80
Date: 12/15/2007 2:50:12 AM
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Any action taken to hamper trading will likely effect something else unforseen.


Congratulations, everyone! Take a look at your draft picks from the Season 2 draft:
You will receive 91% of the sale price after fees.

Draft picks should be seen the same as original team members. With the new agent fees, the draft picks you get this season that you don't want will net you 20% less than the selling price, rather than 3% less. Great.

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9808.118 in reply to 9808.117
Date: 12/15/2007 8:34:12 AM
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the rule changes have taken all the fun out of the Transfer market and as a result the TL is now a graveyard... for new players wanting to experiment and pick up different players it is simply not worth it....

Congrats on destroying a large element of the game.....
anyone complaining about not having enough time to log on...

well with 5mins now your can scout your opponent set your orders and thats about it... i would imagine the TL was the main part of the game that kept people online playing BB.....

lets see.... is the rule open to be changed again...

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9808.119 in reply to 9808.118
Date: 12/15/2007 9:25:48 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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Superfly for most of us transfer market isn't fun, it's only a way to buy player for the team, like in reality. I've never seen a team tells:"Ok let's go to buy 100 players to make some experiments". Then with this taxes you can continue to buy players; if you really want them for experiment you've to keep them on the team for some weeks, but I'm sure the truth is that you don't need for experiment but for money, like Borrego bought 10/12 sold 14/12; he was a bad experiment?
In my opinion there will be still a lot of day traders with this low taxation, you cannot blame the new sistem, with Borrego you should get 400k profit instead of 650k, I think it's still a good way to make money, don't you think?

Edit: Of course nothing of personal against you ;) I don't like at all this "strategy", that's all ;)

Edited by ned (15/12/2007 9.27.07 CET)

Last edited by ned at 12/15/2007 9:27:07 AM

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9808.120 in reply to 9808.119
Date: 12/15/2007 10:39:17 AM
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exactly/
the transfer list is meant only to make your team batter(With batter players) not to sit on it all day and make tons of money... i praise the call that has been made, THANK YOU BB's and GM's for stoping the DT, Thank You!!

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9808.121 in reply to 9808.119
Date: 12/15/2007 11:13:27 AM
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I'll quote you here ned ;) Good posting.


And I agree with darykjozef, that draft picks should be considered as original team members, so 97%.

Edited by PatjeBono (12/15/2007 11:16:31 AM CET)

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 12/15/2007 11:16:31 AM

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9808.122 in reply to 9808.118
Date: 12/15/2007 11:46:23 AM
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Congrats on destroying a large element of the game.....
anyone complaining about not having enough time to log on...


Do you always have to be so sarcastic in your posts?
We are just sharing opinions here...

Sorry if you don't like the new rules on the transfer market. Personally I do, and I think they are a good compromise between keeping the market up and stable and limiting some extreme traders from making too easy money.

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9808.123 in reply to 9808.122
Date: 12/15/2007 1:58:33 PM
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In another game i play, tax on players bought in the last 3 weeks is 95% of PROFIT (sale price - buy price) so a 400K player sold for 650K couple days later you get 412.5K and thus day trading is a waste of time :-)

3-6 weeks is 75%, 6-9 50%, 9-12 could be 25% and then if you sell after a whole season there is no tax or something like 10%. Still of PROFIT not of the sale price.

This doesn't take money out the economy as you get all the buy price back provided you make a profit. It supports people to keep their players a while and only buy sensible ones. But still lets a skilled person make nice money improving their team, not just day trading.

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