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It is possible to break 200K in Div III for other nations.
But they were broken with two extra advantage compared to current Utopia Div III:
1. Arena size for those teams were more than 15K
2. The teams were playing within the country/division for much longer seasons (as evident by the larger arena size)

For me, I prefer to compare Utopia arena income to other nations of one step lower division (for now).
I find it to be a closer match in terms of arena income guideline

My study on large nation's division arena income are roughly as below:
Div V: Avg $73K Max $94K
Div IV: Avg $124K Max $162K
Div III: Avg $197K Max $244K
Div II: Avg $347K Max $379K
Div I: Avg $530K Max $643K

For me, I prefer to compare Utopia arena income to other nations of one step lower division (for now).
I find it to be a closer match in terms of arena income guideline

Yes many of the teams in other nations Div IIIs have larger stadiums and the figures that you have provided I believe has given me confidence that the 200K mark can be broken by a current Utopian Div III team this season.

Ref both my stadium and that of Westri with his Coffee shop scrubs a couple of posts earlier in this very same thread
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My 1st gate in Div III was 168K and Westris was a 178K

Westri and myself took an extra season to reach Div III and as a result have invested considerably more into our stadiums than the majority if not all of those currently in Utopia Div II

Next season when some of the teams who are still in Div IV who have focused even more on stadium growth that Westri and myself, reach Div III, IMO the 200K mark in Utopia Div III will be broken on a more regular basis.

i.e. the gap between Utopia earnings and that of other nations will quickly close, but IMO it wont be the first wave of teams who reach Utopia Heaven, instead it will be the 2nd and 3rd wave of teams who have taken the slower more steady approach, that are the teams who will be at the forefront of bridging the economic divide between Utopia and other Nations

Footnote

Whilst I believe I can burst through the 200K barrier for attendance this season, sadly Im more likely to first break the 200K barrier for team salaries, than attendence


Last edited by Sid Vicious at 10/21/2014 10:01:59 AM

Like I said two factors to decide the arena income:
1. Arena size
2. Duration of play within the nation (can be roughly represented by season ticket holders)

Teams who hold back going all out will obviously be better geared to achieve the first criteria.

For the second criteria, obviously Utopia S29 teams in Div III has a better chance of getting higher arena income compared to S28. At the same time, S30 teams will have higher income than S29 in Div III on average. The gap from one season to another will slowly close as the teams within the division matures (arena size and season ticket holders)

I am actually agreeing with you that it is likely that someone will be able to break $200K in S29 for Utopia Div III but it will only be an elite few. Do note that the $200K achieved at other nations were an average not just a few teams
In fact, elite few of Div III of large nations were able to hit $244K.

I wish I could get the 643K with my Div 1 team in Australia.

Won the double and went undefeated last season but I only managed 582K for the first gate.

Ant tips on how I could get the extra 60K a week?

Your Lower Tier is seriously lacking for D.I.

Your Lower Tier is seriously lacking for D.I.

Yes it has become the norm to have more courtside seats, but given I already have 20,000 in total capacity and that there were changes made to the game to discourage 60,000 seat stadiums from being built, is it still worthwhile me putting in extra Lower Tier seats?

If you want the best possible ticket revenue, then yes. If it's practical to add 3,000 lower tier in order to do that, is another question. And in so doing, you would have never sell out bleachers anymore.

A team from my league called Infinite Pwnage (276909) pulled a gate in the 2nd round worth

$178,840


Has any team in a Utopian Div III league got a gate better than 178 K?


He also had a stadium very close in configuration to that of Westris and mie, but took a pricing strategy in between that of Westris and mine


Totally Addicted

Bleachers : 7700 @ $11 (sold 7700)
Lower Tier : 1300 @ $36 (sold 1300)
Courtside Seats : 270 @ $104 (sold 267)
Luxury Boxes : 14 @ $799 (sold 12)

Total revenue $ 168 856


Westris

Bleachers : 7500 @ $16 (sold 7105)
Lower Tier : 1300 @ $57 (sold 597)
Courtside Seats : 220 @ $155 (sold 144)
Luxury Boxes : 14 @ $1050 (sold 8)

Total revenue $ 178 429

Infinite Pawnage

Bleachers : 7750 @ $13 (sold 7750)
Lower Tier : 1300 @ $40 (sold 1138)
Courtside Seats : 200 @ $130 (sold 189)
Luxury Boxes : 8 @ $1000 (sold 8)

Total Revenue $178,840

D L R

Bleachers : 10000 @ $13 (sold 10000)
Lower Tier : 1000 @ $47 (sold 774)
Courtside Seats : 300 @ $105 (sold 272)
Luxury Boxes : 12 @ $1000 (sold 8)

Total revenue $ 202 938

D L R

Bleachers : 10000 @ $13 (sold 10000)
Lower Tier : 1000 @ $47 (sold 774)
Courtside Seats : 300 @ $105 (sold 272)
Luxury Boxes : 12 @ $1000 (sold 8)

Total revenue $ 202 938

Congrats to you and great achievement with growing your stadium and also your pricing strategy.

Suddenly my quest for the 200K gate is a little bit hollow


Does any other Div III team have any arena income figures to throw into the conversation?

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 10/22/2014 4:22:21 AM