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From: dudehowdy

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216864.116 in reply to 216864.115
Date: 6/7/2012 12:16:52 AM
tannum tantrums
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Interesting point about the Gameshape decline on purchase - I think that would be a nice way of managing this situation.

Treat it like it takes a period of time to integrate with the new team, learn new systems, etc.

From: yodabig

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Date: 6/7/2012 12:20:25 AM
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Great points made by all of you. I have been on both sides of this issue although more on the bad side but both times in the last week or two of my division II championship runs I bought an extra big man to really put me over the top. In season 17 I spent $1,000,000 on Juan Carlos Gamboa (5322865) a really top quality $150,000 a week big man who I sold one month later for $600,000 but it was well worth the rental to make the ABBL. That season he was probably the best player on my team, only Rober Forbes my SF was close.

In season 19 I bought Ander Oriol (4545993) a $90,000 a week big man to really give me depth which is much needed as Sherwin is so foul prone. I sold him a month later for the same price ($300,000) as I had bought him. No way he was my best player but 4th or 5th best. Mind you I sold him early this season and I'm sitting 5-1 in the ABBL so the rest of my squad which I had the whole season obviously wasn't too bad.

So I have added one player late in the season to put me over the top. It isn't buying an entire team but I do think even this should be stopped.

Tanking is now a part of the game. When I promoted to division II the first time in season 12 I fought the whole season to stay up and failed. Big mistake. In just my 3rd season in the game my team was clearly not ready for division II. Then when I made the ABBL in season 18 I was determined to not make the same mistake and have nothing to show for my efforts.

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Date: 6/7/2012 1:53:38 AM
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I have never had a team buy up and steal a championship in my experience. however i think the game would be much more interesting if the eligibility for PO's was changed to at least 8 - 6 games for that team for the season. that way it is at least 3 - 4 weeks salary for them to be eligible, which i think is reasonable considering we don't want to limit it to half the season where the TL is inactive because no-one wants to buy players ineligible for PO's

my two cents

From: lordy

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216864.119 in reply to 216864.118
Date: 6/7/2012 2:01:09 AM
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As long as no one else had the reserves to do a Crockers, I could buy up and take the championship this season. I don't want to though, I have better things to do :P

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216864.120 in reply to 216864.114
Date: 6/7/2012 5:06:50 AM
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FYI, starting 5 salary for Crockers last year heading into the finals was something ridiculous, $700K? The next highest was northcote, who, after also doing a similar tactic of buying up towards the end, had a team (thats TEAM) salary of about $550k. Both unsustainable (? dont quote me here) salaries for a seaon in Div II, and crockers took the cake. well done to him.
AND it was the greatest most well executed form of this tactic that ive ever seen in the game. Took most people by surprise, and now he is 4-2 in ABBL and probably will be there for a while now. So good on him. im green with envy, i really am, because thats what everyone strives for. ABBL


I definitely agree with you there, best execution of a common tactic that I have seen and i've seen it a few times in this league alone now! HA was one of the first and he nearly ruined himself. In fact the majority of ABBL promotees have had some sort of late buy in ahead of playoffs.

$700k is too much to sustain in Div 2 but is probably a fair salary to avoid relegation in the ABBL comfortably. $550k is sustainable, last season that was about my salary and I maintained it for the entire season, without making a loss. Didn't make much profit and I didn't train at all or put money into the draft either. My staff were all minimum wage, until injuries ruined me mid season, then I bought a lvl 4 doc. Will be stinging from last season for quite a while I think!

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216864.121 in reply to 216864.120
Date: 6/7/2012 8:42:10 AM
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suppose it depends on ur definition of sustainable as well!


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216864.122 in reply to 216864.121
Date: 6/7/2012 9:03:26 AM
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Well I'd developed my team and was at a peak. So I had no real training worthy players and my squad was ready to win a title. Unfortunately I forgot about the promoting golden rule and I didn't save enough money before hand to buy in a monster or two. My team was maxed for Div 2 last season, no way could I have held a larger wage for the entire season.

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216864.123 in reply to 216864.122
Date: 6/8/2012 9:50:18 PM
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need to get another win on the board soon

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Date: 6/8/2012 9:50:20 PM
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need to get another win on the board soon

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216864.125 in reply to 216864.124
Date: 6/8/2012 10:02:13 PM
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Either that or get your tank on! I hope this doesn't come across as rude or arrogant as I am just trying to be helpful but in my opinion there are three winning strategies.

1) Win the league or at least have a good shot at winning. Close game losses and injuries can't be helped but go all out.
2) Have a cheap/developing team and make good money each week while training (and thereby improving the value to your team of your trainee assets and so even losses contribute something) aiming for 3rd-6th.
3) Tank, go for last, get a franchise changing draft pick like LeBron or Rose or Howard. Make $200,000 or more each week. Do difficult training while you are doing it so train your Cs in OD or PA or train IS on your SGs while that training doesn't hurt your team's prospects.

Spending a fortune to only get relegated anyway is what I did in season 12 and it is the worst thing I have done. One of the beauties of this game is you can play in infinite ways and obviously it is your team and you can do whatever you want to as the manager, but my humble opinion is if you are going to get wins then do it and if not sell to the salary floor. As little Yoda says, "Do or do not, there is no try."

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216864.126 in reply to 216864.125
Date: 6/8/2012 11:03:59 PM
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Stop telling people in here to tank!

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