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I could buy 6 x 500k players today if i wanted to.

Do i want to though??!!

Bottom line - When in HT have you ever heard of a user that gets a team and wins the division after playing a few games? The teams they get are bad. They get a user test because they are so bad and to prevent users from making that 100k seat upgrade, or buying that 100k player and go bankrupt.

I did that in February '06. Took over a team that had only ever been bot halfway through a season, won my remaining games, won the division, and won my qualifier game against an established team that wasn't throwing it.

I also think this is completely irrelevant. HT has been around for many seasons, there are many mature teams. It makes sense that good teams generally kill bad teams. BB is different - the mature teams here have been around for 1 or 2 seasons longer than the others. Is that an advantage? Sure. But it's not the end of the world for the newer teams.

Let's see.

Much is said here, and I admid I read only a very small part of it, so what I say, might have been told, but the only thing I can give here and now, is my opinion.

It is good that BB releases the best players on the market once a team is not managed anymore, BUT!!! only a few players should see the market this way. I'd say with wages 6000 or up, and NT players.

Look at the TFmarket now and see... about 19 out of 20 players I see that caches my eye is from ownerless teams! hundreds of millions of dollars exit the game this way. And players put up by real teams have no chance of being sold, snice they are not good enough.

More important, since there are so many (where the xxxx do they come from, so so many!!) the bigger teams can't bid on them all. They simply can't.
Well this is good I hear you say, give everyone a chance!
Agree, BUT this makes those good players affordable for all, and that's good, but not at the expense of other players. A 'regular' guy with a salary of less than 3500/week is doomed to be fired now, since no one will buy them. This makes that all smaller teams are duped. They have little money, and the players they have, that might have fixed them a few hundred-k bucks, now are worthless as well!! They can maybe buy 1 or 2 of the good players, but not enough to make a winning team. They will have no chance of winning anymore and probably will quit.
The 2 or 3 good players they have , will be released on the market to make the effect worse...

The situation on the tranfermarket at the moment is realy rediculous...realy...
I think it hurts the game.

I had invested in about 30 players to train them in free trows and sell them for profit, only to notice a few weeks later that I will need to fire them all. But I don't complain, since I was able to buy me 10, yes 10!!! tremendously good players for my money. My case is, as me, probably many had created a longer term plan with their players, which now 9out of 10 will be doomed to fail because too many better players are on the market.
These players would normally not reach the market since if the teams didn't quit they would keep their best to play for them, so why should they hit the market if the team quits?

I know BB does this (maybe only in part) to quickly get much better players in the game, and every team quitting takes down some good players.
But remember this BB. The only players who can improve are those that are trained. There are only so many active teams, so there can only be so many players that train and improve, releasing 100x more on the market won't make those improve...

Therefor I say, release, but release less. This way the prices won't drop (they do now, and drastically since they is an overflow of good players), and lesser players will stil be worth at least something. The very best still stay in the game, and can improve further.

I now apologise for this very long post, but hey... I gave some info to discuss didn't I? ;)

I agree 1000%. I have had to change training plans 3 times and fortunately I have had the money to do so. Others may not be so fortunate

Consistency is nice when implimenting a game like this, but I think we should remember that BB is less than a year old. You have to expect there will be some growing pains making it difficult for long term training schemes. The designers have to make adjustments that they think will make the game better going forward, even if it goes against some people's plans based on the previous rules.

I'm pretty new to the game and I think there are too many players on the market.

As new player I've made some mistakes: for example I put the tickets price to max just to test how it works and I'm stuck with that for a whole month with only 500 people attendance. Lost with worst teams in my league playing take it easy...

Last night i saw very good players free and bought three, expecting to sell others but with this player flood i find that i bought players double than now and probable triple than tomorrow.
In addition the players I expected to sell to maintain my economy now has little value so my team will probably disappear soon...

Great move from BB-Managers...


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Edited by rodolfo (11/29/2007 10:25:23 PM CET)

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You have made 8 player transactions since the News item announcing the changes came out, which is almost three weeks ago.

Why didn't you make your moves based on the information provided?

Lets be clear. From my standpoint, I whatever happens, happens. Yes its a new game, so if they need to do special tweaking to it, then fine. I still agree with the other guys post, but know as a user - you use the system your given.

Can we agree that it's a lil frustrating for the group of players who don't adjust to change very well or didn't plan accordingly. That number (based on this posting and others) seems to be pretty big

Edited by Bobo's Playhouse (11/29/2007 11:13:32 PM CET)

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Never could imagine that thread would hit the 100 count. Which is good thing especially for the BB's right? They can analise the posts and maybe improve the game by the posts



Edited by Anx (11/29/2007 11:35:29 PM CET)

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I did: sold as many old and mediocre players as I could and now bought a quite good shooting guard, a cheap point guard, and two young centers for training, since the training speed gonna be increased.

The problem: I didn't expect this tons of free agents (specially when I read that this will continue for several weeks) This really will sink the market. And this is a real problem for newer teams: How can i survive if i lose 50000$ a week and my players are worth fifth than they value previously?
Worse: with many compromised teams as mine more an more teams will become bot generating more free agents.
And what will you gonna say to teams which spent 200-400k in 18 year players just few days before the announce and that now found that their inversion is worthless?
I play Hattrick and they had a real problem with market deflaction: they solved it injecting money in low level divisions (where most of teams are) . These free agents steals money from teams. Soon no team will have money to buy any player nor will get any income from player selling or training. Since I get 15k from arena revenues.. how the hell can i survive?



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