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53381.118 in reply to 53381.116
Date: 11/22/2008 4:30:29 AM
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this is for me the best comment i ever read here.

well maybe its a way of saying contract offer bonus if they go to you.

but as it goes those who have the money have it all :D

now with the slow in training it makes the level 6 and 7 more demanding.

how can you make it work right??

guess the world is only for winners :D

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53381.119 in reply to 53381.116
Date: 11/22/2008 9:20:46 AM
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I Don't? meaning what exactly? that I can Choose to just Keep replacing my Staff with Level ones?

The "Period" is Missleading,...

You mean I can Obtain a staff member without Bidding?

I have a Level 4 trainer right now,..I want to upgrade to a level 5,... I have been Bidding on a Level 5 TrainerFor Over a week,... and everytime, someone has Over Bid on the guy,... and i have to abandon him, and move on to the next one...

This hurt me Thursday, cause i wanted my New trainer in place for the Friday Training,...

What better way to Move up in leagues than to have a better trainer, I had the Level 4 trainer from the time it was implemented last season,...

So Let me rephrase the statement I made,...

I should not have to COMPETE with anyone to buy staff,....

If I Buy a Staff member, and you want to Increase his salery in those increments, to Force us to turnover staff,...that is fine,... here is what is BS...

I have a Level 4 Trainer,... making $13,898

to Change Staff members, I have to Pay this Guy another $13898, then,.. what ever I have to "BID" on a level 5 trainer,... So far,... I have bidded on 5 different level 5 guys,... I abandoned everyone of them,... cause I am not Paying over $50,000 to a guy, who is going to make19000+ a WEEK.

So,..

$13898 + $50,000+ + $19,000

By the time it is all said and done,... I will have spent close to $100,000 for a Level 5 trainer, who is gonna make $19000 a week,...

Yeah,... that makes sence,...

I tell you what the Problem is,... who ever Wrote the Code for this STUPID Change, is Upset that the MAJORITY of players Hate this system,... and his feeling are evidently hurt, cause he spent all that time Writing the Code, and implementing the code,...

When the MAJORITY want the OLD Code Put back in,...

Sometimes,... Stuff don't work,... and you have to Own up to it,... not make everyone suffer cause of how long someone worked on the code,....

Get rid of this System,... and Implement the Old system,... it was Waaay more fair,...

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53381.120 in reply to 53381.119
Date: 11/22/2008 9:35:20 AM
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By the time it is all said and done,... I will have spent close to $100,000 for a Level 5 trainer, who is gonna make $19000 a week,...

So by that same logic, let's say you have a C being paid $10k a week. You look on the transfer list for a better player, and let's say you have to pay about $2m for a C paid $20k a week.

So you've just paid $2m for someone who's going to get paid $10k a week more. It doesn't make sense in itself, but you have to look at the other effects - in this case, more chances of winning games, more home fans, more home revenue, more chance of being promoted which brings more revenue, etc etc. By the time you factor all these things in, this player will probably give back all the investment in a couple of seasons.

In your example, the higher level trainer will mean that your trainees train faster, which means that when you come to sell some/all of them, they will sell for more, sometimes substantially more depending on what skill set they have. In the meantime, you get to use those players in games, and because they have trained faster you have more chance of winning games, more home fans, more home revenue, more chance of being promoted etc etc. Factor all this in and the $100k investment pales into insignificance.

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53381.121 in reply to 53381.119
Date: 11/22/2008 10:22:15 AM
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I tell you what the Problem is,... who ever Wrote the Code for this STUPID Change, is Upset that the MAJORITY of players Hate this system,... and his feeling are evidently hurt, cause he spent all that time Writing the Code, and implementing the code,...


I guess you are about the only one upset here. The Majority of players? I guess about 40 people out of about 40.000 managers did react in this topic, and you state that's the Majority?

Do you think it's normal to have top class trainers in the lowest leagues? I don't think Phil Jackson will ever train a 4th division Dutch Basketball team.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 11/22/2008 10:22:44 AM

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53381.122 in reply to 53381.121
Date: 11/22/2008 11:50:09 AM
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I guess you are about the only one upset here. The Majority of players? I guess about 40 people out of about 40.000 managers did react in this topic, and you state that's the Majority?


A small percentage of people read the forums. An even smaller percentage actually make posts. There is no point in answering an overstatement with one of your own.

I could also say that a small number of non-GMs have defended the new system in the forums. Does that mean that only 40 out of 40,000 people like the new system?

The point is we don't know - taking only the opinions of the users on the forums is a systematically unbiased method.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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53381.123 in reply to 53381.122
Date: 11/22/2008 12:14:07 PM
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remember also that not everyone are proficient in english, some are even atrocious ;)

Many national forums does only have a small amount of threads, and very few posts. The norwegian forum have quite a lot, but not many discussing the game engine in detail. There are so big dark numbers that I believe we cannot assume numbers either for, nor against. We can only give feedback and hope the scale tip in our direction the next time adjustments are made.

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53381.124 in reply to 53381.121
Date: 11/22/2008 12:14:37 PM
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i think that about 80% of the Actual players in this game, either do not give a flip about the Forums, Or, Only read them to get the information they are looking for.

This is why i say you should send out a Ballot Via E-mail to Every Player. Ask them if they Like the System before, or now...

If i am Wrong,... then That would be the only logical way to prove it.

I see a MAJORIY on this Thread saying the new system sucks,...

And Considering that i may, may make about 400k Profit in 1 year in leauge 4, if I were to Be extremely Frugal... then Yes that $100,000 Is a Great pain in the ass to have to pay just to get ahold of a "decent" trainer.

I don't want to be in a Low Leauge,... Fastest way out is a Good Trainer, Systems makes iit a Fluke if you obtain one,...

that is what is bad,...

From: Osceola

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53381.126 in reply to 53381.125
Date: 11/22/2008 3:29:17 PM
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Tht will never change,...

If so,... it will be 5 or 6 seasons from now,...when what I am trying to do NOW,..is Irrelevent....

From: Osceola

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53381.128 in reply to 53381.127
Date: 11/22/2008 4:21:47 PM
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Which is all the More reason to git rid of this system,...

You may want to wait, I don't prefer to wait.

it is flawed, and they are content to have us "deal with it" cause someone wasted all that time writing all that code,... It wasn't Broke to begin with,...

The Staff member degraded before, so you would have had to upgrade him eventually anyway. It takes away from more important functions of the game,...

the money I send on bidding on a Level 5 trainer,... could be spent on more seats in my arena,...

I am Strapped now as it is,... and trying to be competetive,....

Starting to be not worth it,....

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