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125704.119 in reply to 125704.95
Date: 1/2/2010 6:05:18 PM
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IMO, this is really a decision for managers to make. We designed the game engine so that, like with every other comparison, it is the relative skills that matter. I think you have probably noticed by now that against, say, a player with tremendous inside scoring, the difference between atrocious and respectable inside defense is actually not that great, because the inside scorer is going to be dominant in all of these cases. It is for this same reason that, against a tremendous inside scorer, you shouldn't expect that an improvement in shot blocking from atrocious to respectable will have a major impact. Against a respectable inside scorer, it will have a much larger impact.


but this is that what wonders in this case, an increase from respectable to good shot blocking is pretty low, and shot blockers who are better then most of their opposition don't act better then the guy, who never trained it(and least for the visible blocks, which should be in a similiar contribution like the unvisible ones). If i compare a respecctable ID with a sensationell ID, i notice a big difference because the opponents gots a mismatch - if i do the same the only thing i notice that i get a higher payroll andd hit the cap earlier.(and maybe do 0,2 blocks more)

About the other secondaries i am more in your opionion, even if the impact of the game is lot smaller then of an additionell main skill train.(the JS doesn't seem to give me real missmatches on C, but small ones are better then none when they don't cost you too much)

From: JohnnyB

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125704.120 in reply to 125704.117
Date: 1/2/2010 6:08:08 PM
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U can do it for a few games, thats how i am training JS for my big men but if u r league have 4-5 very closed teams 1-2 losses more means court advantage.

Anyway i am not saying that we dont have options. We have but for what price? especially compared to guards trainers. This is exactly my problem

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125704.121 in reply to 125704.112
Date: 1/2/2010 7:26:52 PM
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Again try to put u r C as SF having 1-2 OD. Tell me the results after

You are not obliged to choose a big man with OD 1 for your team. Many do otherwise.

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125704.122 in reply to 125704.120
Date: 1/2/2010 7:33:19 PM
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Just for the record: tonight tow of my players guarding Pg and Sf respectively (Man to man) with repsectable and strong shot blocking skill had 4 and 5 blocks. To be specific - those two had the highest shot blocking skilly of my lineup and others scored one block or none. Yes, it was a blowout, expected and I didn't care about the win this time, yet I am no farm team. Surprise?

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125704.123 in reply to 125704.120
Date: 1/2/2010 9:02:09 PM
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I really wasn't into the mood to start replying your points and when I see so many people doing it, I just to decided to add that there is no such a pain to have to train your C as a PF when he has OD 1 or 2. Just switch defensive roles with your PF so can have his higher OD at defense.

Yes, you will still have a lower performance but remember the trade off between low term and long term. Maybe you are just trying to defend something you were really sure -and some others are too- without really listening what others might be saying or the experiences they might have had.

Just trying to give you another perspective of the dialogue I'm seeing.

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125704.124 in reply to 125704.110
Date: 1/2/2010 9:11:41 PM
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If u r training 2 positions then 1 of u r big men has to play SF. U cant train 1 position PF.

This is no sms text, you don't have to pay for the extra characters :)

Last edited by Newton07 at 1/2/2010 9:12:40 PM

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125704.125 in reply to 125704.121
Date: 1/2/2010 9:22:14 PM
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You are not obliged to choose a big man with OD 1 for your team. Many do otherwise.

I agree. I find secondary skills for C-PF more important than for PG-SG. Passing and OD are very valuable for C-PF. They are a pain to train, that's why I would rather chose a trainee with lower primary skills but better secondaries.

For PG-SG, ID is quite important, but it trains with OD, so you can expect 1 or 2 pops in it. Reb is also useful, but it costs quite a lot in salary (and also in potential cap).

And last, I would pay to have the other teams in my league training SB :)

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125704.126 in reply to 125704.125
Date: 1/2/2010 10:14:58 PM
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Hello,

I loose and I have some difficulties to understand it...

I don't understand why my centers do not make the difference for this game Look Inside Ofense vs a Man to Man Defense...

I need some help please

This is my game.... http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/17982931/boxscore.aspx

Team ratings

My Inside Scoring prolific (medium) vs Inside Defense respectable (high)
My Outside Defense proficient (low) vs Outside Scoring average (high)
My Inside Defense respectable (low) vs Inside Scoring average (high)

average (low) Rebounding average (medium)
mediocre (medium) Offensive Flow average (high)

Both teams played with the same effort.

How Can he be better than me in "Points per 100 Shots" for Inside spot if he has a worst team rating?

Both team choose a wrong defensive game, But my inside man are much better than other team.

Inside men:

My Center $ 244 929 (Game Shape: strong) vs other $ 37 505 (Game Shape: respectable)
My PowerForward $ 99 853 (Game Shape: proficient) vs other $ 35 616 (Game Shape: strong)

Thanks in advance

The new engine should have an incident on trading... Is it the goal of the new engine to change trading rules?


Last edited by OoB at 1/3/2010 12:02:36 AM

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125704.128 in reply to 125704.117
Date: 1/2/2010 11:51:40 PM
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I think my 3 points attack is prefect

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125704.129 in reply to 125704.73
Date: 1/3/2010 4:55:19 AM
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If you go to the training page, select passing and then select "team" your center will get passing training. If you choose not to train this way, or by playing your center at either PG or Sg, which is also an option, then you choose not to. Do not reply with some blather about that not being possible or feasible or efficient. I don't care. You CAN train passing for your centers. I have and do.

This player (3201582), a backup on my team, averages 5 assists in 22 minutes per game.

You are dead wrong in your analysis of the SPurs. Parker ran circles around the whole league that year. Manu was great as well, but if he didn't have Parker necessitating help d almost every possession he wouldn't have had half the success he did. And my point about the Lakers was that they had a guy named Kareem Abdul Jabbar playing with Magic. Kareem was twice the player Shaq or Duncan or Howard have ever dreamt of being. No team wins the title with only a great center or a great point gurad. The Bulls are the closest to ever winning being a one-man team, because Jordan was a one-man team.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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