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From: GM-Dyd

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Date: 4/10/2016 6:11:09 AM
Sin City inFamous
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Remove Austria from little Europe and put in S. Marino, Vatican City and Monaco.
Then i want right to change my flag.

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Date: 4/10/2016 6:16:36 AM
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There is already an easy solution to this problem you just simply follow the structure set forth by FIBAhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA in the real world. Everyone keeps there own national identity, drafts players of there own country but compete in leagues that consist of

Africahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_Africa, Americashttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_Americas,Asiahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_Asia,Europehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_Europe, and Oceaniahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_Oceania.

The cream will rise to the top of the continental leagues and you lose no NT effects as each country maintains its NT identity.
I dont think the NT matters at all to most micro nations, the only select voices we hear are the ones who have vested interests in competing against bots while turning over large profits.

Im interested in how many Supporters are there in Micronations?
An exact number isnt needed but, id be interested to hear a guestimate.

Oh and for any person who plays this game that feels like they couldnt play with someone simply because they are from another country the world doesnt need you. It's 2016, Grow up and be an adult, we all bleed red. Get over yourself and you will probably find your life far more satisfying

From: Misagh

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Date: 4/10/2016 6:18:34 AM
Venomous Scorpions
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Middle-East
Lebanon
Iran
Saudi Arabia
U.A.E.
Pakistan
India



Iran -> 57
Lubnan -> 4
Saudi Arabia -> 9
U.A.E.-> 10
Pakistan-> 0
India-> 17
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sum = 97

do you think 97 members can decrease tanking ? :D 2-3 seasons ago Iran had above 100 users ... but tanking was not difficult ...
in other hand , UAE or S.Arabia users dont know the game like us :D

you cant change anything by this Grouping

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Date: 4/10/2016 6:19:06 AM
Shahin.Boushehr
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Believe me when I say that we have tried. Some of the active managers now are friends and relatives who have been introduced to the game by some veterans. Still the number of users is on a decline. We've talked over and over about advertising on our own, but we have a lot to determine, as to our targets, how much we can advertise with our limited budget and so on.

From: Misagh

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Date: 4/10/2016 6:43:08 AM
Venomous Scorpions
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If a country only have one division, it should be equal to IV or V division in France, USA or Spain with its floor salary, its tv revenues, etc ... never like now, same as big country first division

If a country has two divisions, then higher will be same as third division in a large country and second same as IV ...


by this idea , we never can competition in B3 with macro nations ... this is not a true solution

do you use violence and coercion anywhere ? :D can't you offer a peaceful way ? :))

From: Knecht

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Date: 4/10/2016 6:46:07 AM
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If you merge Austria and Germany you have to include Switzerland to form a DACH-league. I would like that to happen.

How about adding a third team? In addition to Utopia we can start real world teams and join the current countries?

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Knecht

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Date: 4/10/2016 6:53:32 AM
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Congratulations on ball #1000.

How about merging Africa and Central America in the first step, look how it works and reevaluate afterwards? Even if it fails, the damage done is minimal.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: LA-Ho3ein

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Date: 4/10/2016 6:54:06 AM
Shahin.Boushehr
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OK the grouping of middle east is as follow :

Lebonan : 4 users
Iran : 56 users
Saudi Arabia : 8 users
U.A.E : 10 users
Pakistan : 0 user
India : 17 users

That brings it up to 95. So it would be DI, DII, and 15 teams spread in the 16 DIII divisions ? Who would be put in DI ? Based on world rank ? I don't see what's that going to achieve. It's like a circle you know ! 95 users combined, many of which will leave if the merge takes place, and we're back to around 60 users maybe (the number that Iran has almost), and back to square one.

The communication problems would be catastrophic. We speak Farsi, I don't know what language India speaks, U.A.E and Saudi Arabia speak Arabic which I don't speak a word of, I have no idea of the language of Lebanon, and Pakistan speaks some kind of Farsi I think which is mostly different from Iran's Farsi. As you can see, many Iranians can't speak English well either. So it would be pretty much like Utopia forums

:D

Now I can't even begin to tell you about the cultural differences. Frankly, most Saudis and Arabs don't like Persians and Iranians, and it goes the same way around. Many Iranians don't like Saudis and Arabs. It's not Racism or anything, this goes back to many different issues that has happened in real life, and are still happening now. I know you're gonna say that this is an online game, but you have to be a part of one of these countries to understand what I'm talking about.

Also, there are 6 countries in this Middle East grouping, While five of them combine for 39, Iran stands at 56 and really it feels like they are intruding in our leagues if this were supposed to take place.

:D

I believe that Iran should not be included in this discussion.

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