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I think starting out a SF is definitely the hardest to train because it can hurt your league games if he has to start at PG or C. After a season or so, when his skills are up some, I really like training the SF because you can get some training for your guards and for you bigs.

I have gone to 2 pos training, so half the season I train PG/SG and the other half I train PF/C. I have 2 players that are always training, so there are 6 other players that get training also (even for just half the season). I know this is a little slower, but I like having a good all around team. Just my preference...

come on forwardtrainers. stop crying!

i agree, for a new team or a teammanager who wants quick success, forward-training isnt the recommended option.

but i'm with digler here. if u are on buzzerbeater for 2 or more seasons, the rookies aren't good enough to start in most cases anyway. so you let him come off the bench for your regular season games and let catch up his 48 trainingminutes in frindlies/cupgames/ throw away games.
some day, when he got some respectables or proficients he still isnt as good as your starting c if he playes the 5, but the new matchupsystem is a good way to handle this problem. e.g. youu could play a run&gun with your smallforwrd on the 5, creating a missmatch for the opposing center (you could still match him up vs the opposing sf in defense).
in weeks with two or three important games (e.g playoffs) you can still choose a twoposition-training like jumpshot/driving/rebound or even stamina or freethrows.

i guess you always have to choose, regardless of position: do i want to train my best prospect(s) or do i want to win EVERY game.
for the forwardtrainers MAYBE ( i don't want to blame guard- or bigmen trainers) it last a bit longer untill you see the success, but im convinced in the long run it turns out.

since this thread was highjacked again, at least i want to answer your entering question.

i'm with most of the others. sf should be able to guard both defensive ends, but od seems to be more important in general.
you say you play 2-3 most games. - why? do you adapt your defensive system to your opponents offense or do you just want to go for the rebounds?

if u really want to play a 2-3 because you think the opponent has his strengh inside, i would recommend sf's id-lvl should not be much worse than the id of pf and c. an awful id player will not help much guarding a driving guard or a posting frontcourt.
surely, the zone has the advantage, that the other two (or four) can help a weaker defender better than in m2m, but still the game is matchup based. maybe it needs some timeouts, but the opponent will still try to create a shot vs the weekest defender/ for his best matchup.

Last edited by schubrakete at 2/27/2010 11:13:04 AM

Your right about the topic. I would say that if you want to have a SF that you can start in just about any situation, then you have to have good OD and ID. If not, then you will have to have an outside SF and an inside SF. Those are easier to train up.

So I guess I would say if you want one good SF to be your guy then you need to have good defense for inside/out. I would try to have both at lvl 8 or above depending on how strong your league is.

personally i make the difference betwenn outside and inside SF in the offense, because a specialised offense could be very powerful but in defence is is often difficult to predict how the opponent plays - and if your inside SF also scoring wise inside(else i don't see the easier to train aspect) you'll run often in the best defenciv part of the opponent if you could predict it pre game.

PS: And you need normally a backup who fit, and if he don't fit in defence he get's punished a backup who doesn't fit in offence isn't that bad.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 2/27/2010 1:51:58 PM

you know, a PF don't need such a good OD like a SF.

But a PF needs more inside skills than a SF

But a PF needs more inside skills than a SF

but the outside skills for a pF could be trained as a PF, in my eyes OD 7 even for a high class PF and this is possible with the rigth selection of trainees ;) And then you also got the possibility to make 1-2 Weeks without big problems out of Position trainign each season, thats different to 10+ weeks with SF.

You need to play the PF outside to train OD and you can use your SF prospect in the scrimmages and cup games.