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140518.12 in reply to 140518.11
Date: 4/14/2010 3:48:19 PM
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ah okay.

Yeah I like the 4 weeks tax free idea.

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140518.13 in reply to 140518.11
Date: 4/14/2010 4:21:46 PM
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There is already tax for listing players:
I am familiar with the star players, and am not afraid that they will be transferred
which influence your Fan survey.
I don't think any other tax is needed.

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140518.14 in reply to 140518.13
Date: 4/14/2010 4:29:06 PM
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That survey is just stupid. I get half a star in that section every week and yet sell out my arena every week. It doesn't seem very accurate or useful to me.

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Date: 4/14/2010 4:34:48 PM
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You know this survey really has a small effect. As you are a constant lister, I understand why you oppose this suggestion.

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140518.16 in reply to 140518.15
Date: 4/14/2010 5:09:05 PM
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I don't think I'm constant lister, I used to list some players quite often, but except of my last draftee (which is not sold for many times at the bottom end of TPE - why should I pay any tax for this listing?) I haven't listed player for about a month (before last Sunday).
Your suggestion would totally change behaviour of all managers for tranfers. They would look for buyer f.e. on federation forum and would place him on tranfer list after they find any bid with acceptable price.
I can accomodate to any conditions but I can't really see advantages of this one.
What is wrong on too many players on TL? You can use filter and now also you can save the search if you don't want to see players above some level of price.


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140518.17 in reply to 140518.15
Date: 4/14/2010 5:12:05 PM
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You know this survey really has a small effect. As you are a constant lister, I understand why you oppose this suggestion.


So maybe you can suggest enlarge of this effect instead of suggestion of this thread if you feel this effect as small.

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140518.18 in reply to 140518.9
Date: 4/14/2010 9:06:44 PM
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I was saying was that I am sure that an 18 year old with superstar potential and great stats is NEVER worth 20k.


That is what you are THINKING not what it reflects in reality. Your guy was 18 year old, superstar potential PG at 6'5 and 3k salary.

What you think is good might not actually be that good. Not everyone falls for the "potential" trap and your guy was really a bit too tall for a PG to train long term as a PG.

Now as I said, with the huge influx of young guys being sold right after the draft, I am not surprised that your guy was actually worth 20k. His value obviously went up 1-2 weeks later when there was less young guys on the market so potential buyers had less guys to choose from.

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140518.19 in reply to 140518.16
Date: 4/15/2010 12:29:27 AM
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Are you actually serious? Nobody would search for a buyer from federations. If you list your player for acceptable price the player will be sold. My suggestion would tax managers who constantly list their players for more than what they are worth. It does not matter that you listed your player at the bottom end of TPE, if the player did not sell the price was too high considering height, age, potential, skills etc. How much did you list him for? 20000? 50000? 100000? So you are saying paying 200, 500, 1000 for failing to adequately value your player is too much?

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140518.20 in reply to 140518.19
Date: 4/15/2010 2:35:47 AM
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Are you actually serious? Nobody would search for a buyer from federations.


It is already used :-) Buyer for my last big sale I found via federation. I talk about top BB teams which has top BB players.
I still can't understand what is wrong on placing player on TL at any price. If the price is too high, noboby buy him, it doesn't need any restriction.

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140518.21 in reply to 140518.20
Date: 4/15/2010 9:54:32 AM
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How many top teams are there making big sale? What's the % of them from 50000 users? The sale via federation is an exception. Used very seldomly.
Let me try to explain it to you again. The point of this addition is to protect newer users and to lessen GM work. Thus making the game more fair. If a manager keeps listing his player (let say worth approximately 500k) constantly at 1,5mil. Perhaps in 3 weeks of listing he will get an accidental or unthoughtful bid on his player and it get's sold at start value of 1,5mil. Is it a fair price? Some people might think it's not. So reported -> fined? Wouldn't it be easier just to tax those risktakers (or bid fishers) instead of reporting and fineing them? I'm not actually sure any fireworks go off for GM-s either. So with no report those overpriceing managers will gain an unfair advantage.
Now before you come with an argument of one sale gives no advantage. True. But I monitor a number of these kind of teams that have 3-5 of those type of players on sale constantly. They sell one get a new player and lists another player above his worth.
With this tax: if he truly wants to sell those players, he will list them near their value. Perhaps even would not list some of them at all.

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