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Date: 8/30/2010 3:44:51 PM
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Outside defense and inside shot contribute in a very minor way


That is both very interesting and very bizarre.

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That is some very interesting and powerful information if what you say holds true for a larger sample. Especially this for my training:

Outside defense and inside shot contribute in a very minor way
-All other skills have zero impact on capping.


Excellent work as usual PaperPusher.

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good job keep it up

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Just one question, how much players you received with driving around 18-20 and with handling also around 18-20?

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Date: 8/30/2010 9:14:30 PM
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Just one question, how much players you received with driving around 18-20 and with handling also around 18-20?


None. And although such an extreme example should not be 100% necessary, it would certainly be very helpful. In fact, any extreme examples like this can only serve to make the model better, and to also get to the final result much faster.

But in addition to that, I would also be very interested to get other types of very rare players. For example, players who have very balanced training (eg: capped with all skills equal).

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That is both very interesting and very bizarre.


Well, like I said, the model is far from complete. But it seems that if I can keep the hype going, more people will want to participate. So I would certainly not accept any statement I make at the moment to be the truth. At least... not yet. ;-)

For example, the model says my HOF SF trainee is capped, but I sincerely doubt that he is.

They are just interesting results for the moment.


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Date: 8/31/2010 2:57:19 AM
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There is a player on the TL now with high lvl in driving and handling and it seems they've an influence on the salary (cap)

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How exactly do you know a player capped? He doesn't pop like for four weeks of same skill training? Or he "refuses" to pop in any skill if you train him?
EDIT: Oh, and btw, you started an excellent "test", imo. We still don't know many things about BB and the thing I'm most interested in (beside game engine, of course) is how is potential linked to skill capping. I have a 6th man potential that I want to train to 15k salary, but I don't know if I can. And btw, if you look at transfer list with certain criteria (for example, jump shot min sensational and potential max 6th man), I think you can find interesting results.

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Very good question of Koperboy.
How do you identify players which have just reached cap and players long way after being capped? Because there are plenty of players which have had some (or even quite a lot of) pops after being capped. I think very important for this analysis is to catch just the moment of capping.

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How do you identify players which have just reached cap and players long way after being capped? Because there are plenty of players which have had some (or even quite a lot of) pops after being capped. I think very important for this analysis is to catch just the moment of capping.


I agree. That's why I am generally only taking players from teams who can give me a fairly good recent training history on their player. I am not just taking players off the TL, as there is no way to know if the player is capped or if they received training after capping.

There are some players that I am not sure of. Either because the owner could not remember the exact skills or because their training history is vague. There is also one case (RIP's player Abbott) where I do not know 100% if he is capped, but I put him in the model anyways. But if I ever have enough data, I should be able to drop these players if I keep good notes.

I will admit this: the truth is that I cannot wait for perfect players to do this analysis. I also have to take a leap of faith and trust the people who send me data. That may introduce some error or bias into the model. But I do not see a way around this.

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