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184290.12 in reply to 184290.9
Date: 5/7/2011 5:44:29 PM
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That's a good observation there, and probably part of the explanation.

I like to think of the Patient offense as the Buzzerbeater version of the Lakers' Triangle offense. It's not really an Iso offense (though Iso sets are easily implemented in it), but you can often see Kobe going for lots of shots and points. Still, the entire point of that offense is, in fact, a balance between Kobes huge outside threat and the length the Lakers have inside.

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Date: 5/7/2011 5:55:27 PM
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And PG also. i'll find other matches with PF or C have the highest score.

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Another match for you to analyze. Kinda wished that my inside players took more shots from the outside though.

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Date: 5/7/2011 7:14:45 PM
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Someone who has a decent sample uses moutlinho's tool to compare the number of made shots (of the best attacker) which are assisted versus number of shots unassisted. I think we will see a big, big difference between O/I isolation versus Patient.

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If Patient utilizes the best mismatch, maybe it's advantageous to play your best scorer out of position on offense (e.g. SG as PF or C). Has anybody seen this done? I'll try it on my PL this week.

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I've been playing a lot of patient as part of training 3 players individually over the 3 games, each one getting 48 in a position and playing along with 4 scrub players. Looking back it does seem that the trainee has by far the highest usage, no matter the position (mostly PG or C for training).

(32851377) - Trainee, Hyytainen took 45 of 82 total shots (he's a SG, playing out of position at C)
(32851366) - Trainee Esene took 51 of 80 shots (he's a SF, playing at C in this game)

Interesting, I guess I could run this thru moutinho's tool and see the results.

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Date: 5/8/2011 3:23:42 PM
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If Patient utilizes the best mismatch, maybe it's advantageous to play your best scorer out of position on offense (e.g. SG as PF or C). Has anybody seen this done? I'll try it on my PL this week.

I've done exactly that last season, playing my SG as C, and he was really overused. Actually, it didn't really work well on one of the games, but I'd say the usage of the mismatch is a clear fact.

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good questions

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