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From: Elmacca

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185486.12 in reply to 185486.11
Date: 5/26/2011 5:18:56 AM
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Couldn't split PF & PG for me. A good PG makes the offense sing while mist mismatches seem to happen at PF, offering the best scoring potential.

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185486.13 in reply to 185486.11
Date: 5/26/2011 5:19:23 AM
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If you consider the PG to be "the play maker" and not a shooter, he depends on his teammates to score. Personally, I have a PG who cannot score but is a great play maker. He is very important to my team but useless if no one can score off his passes. Which leads me to my SG who is a great scorer. Now you can argue who is more important.
I think we could argue this way about any position. The most important "position" in my opinion is the team. All five players combined should cover up all skills to an extent that are necessary that wins games.

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185486.14 in reply to 185486.12
Date: 5/26/2011 5:47:38 AM
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personally i see high scoring potential at the guard positions, my PF usually score around 15 points per game is clearly my best player and should be also a walking missmatch.

But normally that no good enough for the league ladders, which are dominates from guards and SF.

But how eastend boy said, the team matters and there are different ways for succes and i am quite sure that my PF contributes a lot

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185486.16 in reply to 185486.13
Date: 5/31/2011 10:37:25 PM
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but my argument was that PG by himself can be a playmaker and a scorer at the same time. You can say that SG can do both as well but if defined by their roles, its easier for a PG to do both since he has the ball all the time.

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185486.17 in reply to 185486.16
Date: 6/1/2011 6:36:05 AM
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I don't think it is necessarily like that. I have played my actual PG at SG for a few seasons now, due to 1pos.training of my trainees, and he still performed like a PG (week shooting/good play making) while my SG-trainee who played at PG mostly has been an outstanding scorer. Check out my players Hampsas and Zelmenis in season 15 to see what I mean.

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185486.18 in reply to 185486.17
Date: 6/1/2011 7:46:39 AM
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Im gonna go with SF on this one.

He is the guy that can be the most versitile. He could be a good rebounder, good outsider shooting, good driver, good passer, good inside shooter, and I believe as a general rule, whatever offence you play tends to maximise his strengths.
If you play an inside offence, and he has good inside stats, he becomes a third inside player. If you play an inside offence and his strengths are outside, he becomes the third outside shooting player. Or again, if he has awesome passing, he becomes the link man into your PF/C.
Same could be said for outside offences.

You could have guards that are great at shooting, but if you play Low post, you arent neccassarily maximising their strengths. But a SF strengths will be maximised across the majority of offenses.

Plus he is hardest player to guard. PF's and C's you need really good inside D. guards, good outside D... SF you need both, because in your league, against different opponents, you will face both Outside playing and Inside playing SF's.


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185486.19 in reply to 185486.18
Date: 6/1/2011 10:29:40 AM
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If you have an SF who is strong at every skill, than yes.

Many teams play an SG-like player at the SF-spot and play outside offense. In that respect, yes, they maximize his strength. He can surely make a huge difference, but is he then more important than the Guard who is a great shooter as well and/or has to feed him with assists?
The same goes with inside tactics. The big men would have the major impact overall. As I said before, the SF could make a big difference. But to call it the most important position? I think I wouldn't go this far.

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185486.20 in reply to 185486.18
Date: 6/1/2011 12:43:48 PM
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You could have guards that are great at shooting, but if you play Low post, you arent neccassarily maximising their strengths.


Guards are as important (if not more) than inside players on an inside offence.

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185486.21 in reply to 185486.17
Date: 6/1/2011 6:58:12 PM
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lol.. so what is your point then? what you are saying doesnt contradict what i said.

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185486.22 in reply to 185486.20
Date: 6/1/2011 10:27:57 PM
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Guards are as important (if not more) than inside players on an inside offence.


That is very VERY debatable. I personally disagree, but, its up for discussion.

But thats not quite what im saying. Guards MIGHT in fact be more important. But thats not my point.

If you play inside offence, guards are important yes, but if you have awesome guards, then you arent maximising their strengths by playing an inside offence. It would be like having Michael Jordan on your Under15s basketball side, and telling him to pass to the tall lanky guy who hasnt decided if he is right or left handed yet. Yer sure he might get off some awesome passes, too bad the tall lanky guy drops them all, or bricks every one of his shots.

No, if you had MJ, you would telling MJ to shoot the ball, every chance he got. Playing an inside offence, the game engine would allow MJ to shoot some inside shots, but not as many as an outside guard-orientated offence, which I believe is quoted in the game manual. The game engine will try to take advantage of an-MJ player skills no matter what offence you play, but a lot more effectively on selected offensive strategies.

This is why I believe that the SF is the most important player. Because regardless of the offence you play, the game engine will maximise his abilities in the most appropriate manner, more so than any other position. So you basically get more out of him, regardless of the offensive strategy you play.

IMO :)

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