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189196.12 in reply to 189196.9
Date: 7/10/2011 5:43:03 PM
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Why does a player start to decline when they are 29 anyway? A professional ball player wouldn't start to go cold that early. I'd say that we change the start of decline from 29 to something like 33 or 34. I mean look at Jason Kidd, he's still kicking butt and he's 38.xD



the player decline also with 33 skillwise(or was it 32?), but like in RL maangers tend to get younger guys for their franchise first.

But i think often older guys a are better decision because of it, they are cheaper and even when they might get worse the overall loss of value is still better then a 21/22 year old who mostly loss value when they didn't get trained.
I think betwen 25-28 maybe it is the best area, because the prices look for me relativ stable.

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189196.13 in reply to 189196.12
Date: 7/10/2011 8:08:48 PM
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I totally agree.. I buy my G's at around 25 and keep them for about 4 season. I also agree with the post about EXPERIENCE being very important. I would also agree that 30(unless a NT player) is the cut-off for my team...
This was a great thread, it is nice when you find out so many people are thinking like you.

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189196.15 in reply to 189196.1
Date: 7/10/2011 9:40:00 PM
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My thinking could be wrong, but I think a lot people are missing the boat on the 30+ players.

Other than the teenagers I've been training, I've had about six 30+ players on my roster all season and I can only remember 2 negative pops, so to me their skills aren't slipping as much as many people think.

Because I'm in a lower division I'm already assuming that none of these guys will be with me by the time I get to the top divisions, so having a long term non-trainee is pretty much pointless in that respect.

Also, they obviously go for much cheaper on the transfer list which being in lower division allows me to build a stronger team for less $$$. And from what I've noticed, a 30-34 year old appears to be a more productive player than a 24-28 year old with the exact same skills. I'm assuming this is where the experience part of their makeup comes into play.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 7/10/2011 10:33:37 PM

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189196.16 in reply to 189196.10
Date: 7/10/2011 10:03:01 PM
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Well if your statement is true, then I would agree that stamina should correlate with how well a player does once they get older. I mean I myself was a hyper energetic kid, but now in my teens i have to have a higher level of stamina to achieve the same level of activity. So a 30+ guy with crap stamina declines quicker, and the same age player with great stamina declines slower. Maybe we should take the soft cap off of stamina for that fact? I mean if there is one.

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189196.17 in reply to 189196.16
Date: 7/10/2011 10:28:58 PM
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But Stamina is easy to train. It trains at the same speed whether you're 18 or 35. Because owners have been training it for years, you don't find very many 30+ players with poor stamina. But you do however find tons of 18 year olds that do.

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189196.18 in reply to 189196.17
Date: 7/11/2011 1:50:56 AM
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I've taken flak for buying 28 year olds before.

The way I see it, I've watched players buy young players 23ish and then be forced to sell them because either they demoted, or the player didn't fit in with their plans for their team any more. Either they wanted to switch their offensive focus, or the play had foul problems.

In the worst case I've seen, this dude lost over 1 mil in reselling that player after training him for 2 season.

I'm not too bothered by age, but I do try to keep to a system.

I don't cough out millions on a youngish stud, I prefer getting players around the age of 27 - 29 because they are cheaper and I can use them for 3-4 season.

I just sold my fav big for 650k, about a 550k loss from when I bought him 3 seasons ago. Might seem like a big loss of cash, but I've manage to promote with him. Don't forget to factor in the massive drop in prices for bigs.

What I'm trying to do now is buy bigs that are 26-28 years old. So that when my guards mature in about 3 seasons, I can sell these bigs and switch my training regime to training bigs.

Then with some luck, I'd be able to make a run for cup / league in abt 5 - 6 seasons ;P

Well, that's the plan... too bad I love surfing for bargains in the TL so much I don't really stick to it ;P

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189196.20 in reply to 189196.19
Date: 7/11/2011 4:30:14 AM
Dodor Utd
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Too old for what?
Unless you want to make a profit out of a player, you could definitely keep him until he's 33, 34... His skills would probably not drop that much. If you want to earn some cash though, better sell before 30.
I have a 32 year old player, who has not dropped at all so far this season. I think I'll keep him just to study how and when drops occur.

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189196.22 in reply to 189196.20
Date: 7/11/2011 11:40:13 PM
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I have a 34 year old and he has only dropped once this season, and maybe one other time last season but I can't remember