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214924.12 in reply to 214924.9
Date: 4/24/2012 1:53:27 PM
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Well, I would guess that with the proceeds of selling Quigley and Salas, you could have enough money to buy veteran, trained players, and promote the first season after you do that. But it depends on what you really want to do, and how you enjoy playing Buzzerbeater. Do you like the process of training young players, and seeing them develop, getting little green arrows on Friday morning? Or do you like finding cool player builds on the TL, assembling a team that can execute particular tactics, and going for wins first? Now, neither approach is completely exclusive of the other (cause you'll be buying players, and working on winning even if you're a trainer at heart, and you can train players even if you're a veteran first team), but at some point, I think you personally have to decide which gives you more enjoyment. Once you do that, then it's time to decide some things. And don't listen to people who say you can't train in D5. That's nonsense. D5 is one of the best times to train players, cause your typical trainee starts off about as good as most D5 regular players. And after one season of single position training, your trainee will be better than most other players.

If you like trainining, there's no way I'd ever sell Salas and Quigley. They are excellent looking prospects, and they are both your "home" players, being drafted by you, or on your initial roster. As their salary grows, so will their merchandise value, effectively reducing their salary. So continue to train them in inside skills, and they'll make a great center and power forward duo for you for a long time to come. Don't forget to give them some other training as well, like 1v1 and passing. That will improve their performance but not cause their salaries to skyrocket. But after those two guys, it's not clear to me who you are training along with them. If you single position train them, and give each of them a full 48 minutes in a game, you have space for another trainee. Who is that? If nothing else get a decent guy to take a few of the minutes (especially in rebounding or 1v1 weeks), then sell him to make some extra money.

That brings up the rest of your roster. Right now it seems a bit too young, and my suggestion would be to sell those guys and buy slightly older players who are more completely developed. You clearly need more outside defense, and passing. So look for some guys who are 27-29, with OD in the ~10 range, and PA ~8. Those guys should be decent enough to put you over a lot of D5 teams, and help you stick around in D4 when you promote. So after the playoff eligibility deadline comes, look for some bargains in guys with salaries in the 8-10K range, and look for some decent secondary skills (e.g., inside shot and inside defense in the 7 range can be very useful for guards).

Lastly, I'd suggest not playing so much full court press, as it's usually not very effective against real human teams.

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214924.13 in reply to 214924.12
Date: 4/24/2012 2:02:47 PM
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Well, I would guess that with the proceeds of selling Quigley and Salas, you could have enough money to buy veteran, trained players, and promote the first season after you do that. But it depends on what you really want to do, and how you enjoy playing Buzzerbeater. Do you like the process of training young players, and seeing them develop, getting little green arrows on Friday morning? Or do you like finding cool player builds on the TL, assembling a team that can execute particular tactics, and going for wins first? Now, neither approach is completely exclusive of the other (cause you'll be buying players, and working on winning even if you're a trainer at heart, and you can train players even if you're a veteran first team), but at some point, I think you personally have to decide which gives you more enjoyment. Once you do that, then it's time to decide some things.



Excatly. Couldnt agree more. You should play in a way you enjoy most. :) I just gave you my advice from my experience. What will I do. As you asked.

Last edited by Batgirl at 4/24/2012 2:07:33 PM

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214924.14 in reply to 214924.12
Date: 4/25/2012 1:33:50 AM
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Yeah, the full court press is cause I knew I was elimated from playoffs already, and am padding stats or trying to anyways.

Ok, most enjoyment... I do enjoy training players, but can't seem to get a full 48 mins for 3 guys when single training, can get 2 guys 48 no problem, but other guy is always between 30-44 depending on fouls, etc.

As to winning... lol, well, this season was my teams most success as it, they had several 4th quarter chokes.

I have the 6th pick coming up... there's a guy in the scouting pool whom is a 6'6 5/4 A+ "PG"
0-7 0-1 2-3 1 5 5 3 6 2 1 2
fg 3pt ft or r a to st blk pf pts

If I get him, I believe I am less in need to sell both Salas and Quigley, he'd also seem to be a guy you'd make an SF, and I don't think I am ready to train SFs... but he'd prob sell well.

Right now the opther trainee... has been irrelvant cause none my other guys are decent ages/potentials to train with them. except Falcao who is a guard on my team. I make good profits, and sell-out or close to against everyone but #8 seeds. So I have been working on expansion (at a snail's pace) this season some, especially since i've had 0 luck in the TL market all season.

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214924.15 in reply to 214924.14
Date: 4/25/2012 8:21:08 PM
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I'm opposte with you, Troy. Had BEAST luck and got great players. REALLY suck at the draft. Anyways, try and keep Salas and may sell Quigly. Sell the draft picks you don't need. Then, you can get a low salary (7-11k) player for a cheap price next season. Maybe a SF or Guard. You can do that and probably get a 4th or 5th place finish. Stay withen relegation and you can promote in s21. MAy want to win cup games to get $$$.

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214924.16 in reply to 214924.8
Date: 4/29/2012 5:27:48 PM
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What would you do with Belkhaouous?
Weekly salary: $ 6 084
Age: 22
Height: 7'1" / 216 cm
Potential: starter
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: pitiful Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: atrocious Handling: average
Driving: atrocious Passing: awful
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: prominent
Rebounding: strong Shot Blocking: strong
Stamina: proficient Free Throw: respectable

Experience: pitiful

I am on the fence if I should hold onto, or trade.

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214924.18 in reply to 214924.16
Date: 5/4/2012 2:57:23 PM
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Ok, in draft, I have a good chance of getting a 6'6 18 PG A+ grade, 5/4

Would I be able to hold onto both him and Salas? or would with how my income is currently, and the Arena size, etc. It be more in my interest to sell him?

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214924.20 in reply to 214924.18
Date: 5/5/2012 8:04:33 PM
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First season I got a player in the draft who was decent, so I trained him. Within no time at all he bacame the center piece of my team making everything possible, and I bought in a couple players and trained him up with a few others and sold them. I also got an MVP player (who I should have sold as I failed his training slightly), but if you keep the training on the right track, you can sell him once his salary gets a bit too out of hand (and as an MVP he can become a GREAT player, much more than you could afford when he gets to his higher end)

So for now train him well, and use him in your team. He will get a high wage soon enough that may start to become out of hand, so when he does, it is a good idea to sell him and make the maximum profit, rather than keep him in your team for a few more seasons and sell him for nothing.

You can train up Allstars (Or maybe P. Allstars), for example, to be good enough for your team at its current stage, as you won't get even near to this guys cap before he becomes unmanageable. Although your team will progress as he does to, and be able to afford him more and more, he will still most likely out run your budget, and be too expensive to keep. But you will train the P. Allstar (and a draftee hopefully) alongside him, and you should keep him for your team, as he will be older and harder to sell, and sell the MVP on for lots of $$$

At the end of the day, do what you deem necessary and right. These are just ideas of what I would do in your position.

Hope this is useful!

galla

p.s. The 6'6 PG, you should sell him if you get him, as you are training C's. But if he has some OK inside skills, and alright JS, he can also be a PF, which you can train with your two C's and get this guy to be your PF

EDIT: Although if he did have ok inside skills and ok JS, then he would most likely already be listed as a PF so probably not really a good chance of that, but you never know.

Last edited by galla at 5/5/2012 8:05:32 PM

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214924.21 in reply to 214924.18
Date: 5/14/2012 5:20:13 PM
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http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/29781/players.aspx
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http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/29781/arena.aspx
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http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/317/draftSummary.aspx
draft history

I am the Otherland Champions... I did get that 6'6 5/4 guy (PA potential), and the 4/4 C also (PA potential as well). I got through the TL before my expenses got hit hard, a 16k almost salary PG/SG and am short term, keeping Falcao (since I can't afford a dif guy atm).

I need advice.
Several options are available....
Salas is going well in training, could prob sell and make s-ton.
Quigley and Val jackson are both 6'11 PA potential guys... quigley received a year's worth of training behind Salas, so his salary is a lot more than the 3700 it says realistically.

the 6'6 PG guy is JS 3 JR 7 OD 7 HN 6 DR 6 PA 7 IS 2 ID 5 REB 6 SB 5 and then not important stamina 5 FT 3

This season was going to be like, 1v1 training for Salas a bit. so short term, can train the 6'6 guy still for a little bit. Should I keep and do that... sell off immediately? Sell quigley and focus on Jackson as Salas' backup since he's 2 years younger and quigley will bring $$$

This year I *need* to promote to div IV what would be in my best interest as a team to do so?

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214924.22 in reply to 214924.21
Date: 5/14/2012 5:38:23 PM
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well first of all remember that BB is a marathon and not a sprint.so u need to have long term plans.first of all sell franklin.he is a 18 y.o PA so he would fetch u a good price.and from that price expand ur arena.always remember that ur arena is somewhat like a bank account of BB which always gives u income.so yr furst aim should be to build your arena to atleast 8k for div 4.
moreover i dont think that keeping that 16k guard(fransizio) would help cuz he would turn 34 in a few days and he will start to drop in his skills.
so presently ur plan should be-train salas,quigly and val jackson.they will learn quickly and after a couple of seasons u can sell quigley to get some money.
place franklin on the TL and he will give u a good price and use that to expand your arena.
then find a replacement for your 16k guard and if possible buy 2 8k salary players so as to have 2 decent positions other than having one good position.
if u do these u might have a chance of winning the league though i think that odds dont favour u.but yes one thing u can be sure of is that if u plan long term then u will make a much better team than planning short term.
hope that helped

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