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219433.12 in reply to 219433.11
Date: 6/4/2012 4:46:57 PM
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3) It is not surprising, as each season we all gain assets (better players, money, arena size, etc.) So, the only diffrentiator is the amount of seasons one plays...

Buzzerbeater is intended to be a marathon, not a sprint. Users who expect instant gratification will probably have more fun playing a different game. The NBA console series come to mind.

yes, but not after 20 seasons...there are more managers since 5-6-7 season, and they played for 15 seasons, but they have not level the advantage of manager of 1, 2 or 3 season, yet...and after it will go worse...
this is not a marathon, it's the Hundred Years' War

Last edited by zecchin at 6/4/2012 4:55:35 PM

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219433.13 in reply to 219433.9
Date: 6/4/2012 6:04:16 PM
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other considerations about bad economy management are these:

1) At the end of last season, there was not a single team who joined later than season-4, on the first division of - Frace and Spain.

2) On Argentina, Italy and Germany there was 1 or 2 teams at their BB-nation's first division.
They have done that by tanking at their first seasons, getting great draft players and selling them for a bit too high price.
They where relegated at the end of that season...

Those 5 BB-nations (the only ones that I've checked) are more than 25% of all BB-community.


*yawn*

BB Nations making up more than 50% of the BB population have had managers more recent than that in their top league. Cherry picking 5 of the 17 or so nations over 1000 users and then ignoring the others when claiming a game-wide imbalance is pretty foolish.

3) It is not surprising, as each season we all gain assets (better players, money, arena size, etc.) So, the only diffrentiator is the amount of seasons one plays...

these are other reasons for stable number of users in BB, and not increase because new users stay actice for 2 or 3 sesons, then leave because is very difficult win without have bankrupt...


I love this -- it's as if each season a team is logged in, the longevity fairy makes a deposit into their account and then they just add to their warchest. Never mind having to pay salaries, which also go up rapidly in the higher divisions. And somehow these five countries' imbalances are precisely the reason that people who join a lower level league, never log in, never participate in the forums and never bother to do a thing are leaving?

I think you (well, Pini, whose work you're parroting) should spend more time figuring out why newer teams in Eesti, Srbjia, Turkey, USA, etc. are able to make it up to the top leagues. If you want to move up, be better than the teams you're looking to compete against, and stop asking for them to be brought down for you, because managers just as new as you who are busy making themselves better instead of trying to play Robin Hood will pass you by.

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219433.14 in reply to 219433.10
Date: 6/4/2012 6:09:14 PM
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well, this is a new thread on italian help forum: (219496.1)
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Come guadagnare?

Salve, la mia liquidità è praticamente sempre la stessa, non riesco mai ad avere piu denaro e quindi riuscire a migliorare il roster. Come fare?

I translate:

how to gain?

Hi, my money are ever the same, i never can have more money and then i can't improve my roster. how can i do?
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can anyone answers?


Next time, try investing money into building an arena and purchasing decent but cheap trainees rather than spending on players -- that team has spent over $1M over their time here on players and really don't have anyone worth training nor players that are really going to be helpful to promote, let alone when (or if) they promote.

I mean, you know, if you take all the money you get, spend it on players and raise your salaries, you'll have no money left over for arena expansion and you'll struggle.

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219433.15 in reply to 219433.13
Date: 6/4/2012 6:35:11 PM
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in USA just 5 teams of first division born after season 4, and 2 of them are tanking to make money and be relegated in II...
are you sure go better in other nations??
maybe France, Italy, Argentina, Germany and Spain are more competitive nation than your...
in less competitive nations is simple make money without tanking, because you can have a positive balance and be save...last season I have a weekly active of 7/8k, and I'm not relegated thanks playoffs, and I have a 15k arena, just because all my division team was at limit of their balance with salary...
so, if you are not in this situations, have the respect to listen us without give sentences if you don't say...

ps: I'm not Pini parrot, I just take his words to another point of view of my critic...

pps: about other post, you are wrong in that too, because I take the specific case just to say that is not the first thread opened in help forum like that...

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219433.16 in reply to 219433.15
Date: 6/4/2012 6:48:54 PM
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I see you team...you are in playoff zone in III with a roster that any single team of my old IV division can beat, but take my same tv contract...thank of that you have a 12k arena in 5 season of game...in italy is impossible that...
don't let me laugh...please...

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219433.18 in reply to 219433.14
Date: 6/4/2012 7:47:14 PM
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Next time, try investing money into building an arena and purchasing decent but cheap trainees rather than spending on players -- that team has spent over $1M over their time here on players and really don't have anyone worth training nor players that are really going to be helpful to promote, let alone when (or if) they promote.

I mean, you know, if you take all the money you get, spend it on players and raise your salaries, you'll have no money left over for arena expansion and you'll struggle.


you're so smart... do you wear a moustache?

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219433.19 in reply to 219433.17
Date: 6/4/2012 7:59:29 PM
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I see you team...you are in playoff zone in III with a roster that any single team of my old IV division can beat, but take my same tv contract...thank of that you have a 12k arena in 5 season of game...in italy is impossible that...
don't let me laugh...please...

Actually no, he doesn't take the same TV contract. Learn the game mechanics -- please.

it's less low than mine...in IV i took around 70k with a 220k roster...now I take 104k with a 269k roster, and I play to not be relegated...

he has a 200k roster, but he's in III, so he don't take 70k tv contract, because there's a limit, and not also 104k, because his league is not better than mine...but if he take 80/85k are enough, because he's in III so he has much fans, and he can play for promotion with a positve weekly...

So don't tell me "it's a good ecomony", because is good in "easy play" nations...I would just that BBs give an answers to us for our situation (25% of BB people), I don't want listen people who reach to have a good economy because are in a easy play nation...

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219433.20 in reply to 219433.19
Date: 6/4/2012 8:11:28 PM
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So don't tell me "it's a good ecomony", because is good in "easy play" nations...I would just that BBs give an answers to us for our situation (25% of BB people), I don't want listen people who reach to have a good economy because are in a easy play nation...

I haven't said anything like that. Just the opposite -- you seem to claim that the game is broken because you somehow can't handle the competition in Italy. Tough beans, I guess...

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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219433.21 in reply to 219433.20
Date: 6/4/2012 8:32:36 PM
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So don't tell me "it's a good ecomony", because is good in "easy play" nations...I would just that BBs give an answers to us for our situation (25% of BB people), I don't want listen people who reach to have a good economy because are in a easy play nation...

I haven't said anything like that. Just the opposite -- you seem to claim that the game is broken because you somehow can't handle the competition in Italy. Tough beans, I guess...

you didn't understand...I just said that these economic troubles there are not even in real NBA...
so, why we have to play an economic game and not a basketball game??
I wuold just an answer on that...

ok the economic management, but here it's much complicate...

I have a pair balance, and I have not money problems, but it's not good that I can't go on market without sell anyone...I can't have a positive weekly without be relegated...not to talk about fans, with a 1-1 record in first week, because of a lose with my rival on road, I had -3k of affluence with a 30k negative taking...it's absurd because if I have a pair weekly, -30k are a considerable damage with this economy...

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219433.22 in reply to 219433.21
Date: 6/4/2012 9:11:16 PM
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so, why we have to play an economic game and not a basketball game??

Because this is not a basketball arcade game -- it's a management game. And the economic aspect is part of the management process.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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