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Date: 9/25/2012 5:08:05 PM
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Well, if that's what you want to take away from what I said, then it seems you've already made up your mind that the game isn't any good.

There are SGs who have good FG%, so it can be done in this game. Just don't assume that your 8 JS guy is necessarily going to be one of them.


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Date: 9/25/2012 5:49:26 PM
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Against bad teams I sure do assume that...

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Date: 9/25/2012 7:31:03 PM
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As I said, you've already made up your mind. So you're not worth the discussion.

Should you decide to open you mind and ask questions about how to get better, and how the simulation works, I'll be happy to help.

From: rcvaz

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Date: 9/25/2012 8:09:56 PM
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How about his driving? How high is it? And the PF's driving?

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Date: 9/25/2012 8:16:07 PM
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Are you familiar with the term hyperbole?

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 9/25/2012 8:17:53 PM
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Sure, why?

From: Vicestab

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Date: 9/25/2012 9:11:25 PM
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Average, and I think the PF was worse.

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Date: 9/26/2012 2:19:13 AM
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When it comes to the FG %:

My former PF was 26-37 (70%), with 4-7 3pt. He was inept IS with respectable JS and low JR.
My shooting guard is 14-36 (39%) with 2-12 3pt. He is strong JS and JR, with respectable IS.

Degree of difficulty has a lot to do with this. Ok, I'll admit that the PF making 4-7 three pointers IS a pretty bad side-effect of how the buzzerbeater match engine works (I call this phenomenon "Radford'ing" after a center who knocked down 19-38 triples in a high-quality league over a season). But, the rest of those figures can easily be explained.

Tyson Chandler made 67.9% of his shot attempts in the 2011-2012 season. Kobe Bryant only made 43%. But a lot of Tyson's shots were gimmes from right under the hoop, whereas Kobe had to shoot a lot of long jumpers and threes (and also had to shoot the ball more and against stiff defense). Despite having what appears to be a terrible FG % in comparison, Kobe is still the better scorer because a lot of his shots had a high degree of difficulty.

If you leave this game and try to find another basketball manager online, I seriously doubt you'll find anything better. The other 2 major online basketball managers that I know of (and haven't signed up for) have seasons that are way too long for a manager game and lack key features of basketball leagues such as playoffs and the draft. Also, neither game seems to do a good job of separating Inside and Outside scoring, judging by the player skills mentioned in their respective game manuals.

Stick with BB for a while longer at least ;).

PS: Your sample size is also too small, your SG may improve in shot % over the next few games, especially if as you said, you're playing scrub teams. But again, remember that he's probably taking all of the tough shots for your team.

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 9/26/2012 2:19:29 AM

From: Xamos

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Date: 9/26/2012 3:54:09 PM
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Some things worth considering:

a)Being the most competent shooter also means he will attempt more difficult shots. You have to realize that at such ridiculously low skill levels, pure luck can mean more than any statistical advantage. When 2 teams field entire rosters ranging between 3 to 4,5k salary, then a 7 or 8 in some stat, while desirable, isn't a guarantee of any kind. At that level, simply being classified as a point/shooting guard means the player has outside stats and that includes defense, especially if he was picked to play. What I'm saying is that your 7 or 8 in jump shot is probably being matched against a bunch of 6 or 7 defense stats. It's not THAT big of a difference in quality to distinguish one player from another that sports a mere 4 or 5. Pure dumb luck will trump those differences any day. Even in the rare case when your player finds some completely open shots, an 8 isn't high enough to guarantee he'll make most of them and even out the stats. Comparably, a power forward shooting from distance is much more likely to be going up against a much weaker defender, especially considering all your opponents have played man-to-man.

b)Guards are most often the ones who end up shooting if an offensive play doesn't work out and someone has to take a desperate shot because the clock is running out. Think about it. If the ball ends up in the hands of your PF and he's in a position to attempt a shot, that means something has worked out. Power forwards don't randomly carry the ball around when a team is trying to build up a play, guards do.

c)You've played what, 4 matches? You can't rule out luck at all.

Last edited by Xamos at 9/26/2012 3:56:33 PM

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Date: 9/26/2012 4:05:15 PM
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The question was supposed to be for the original poster. Sorry.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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