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Whos better i think Lebron because these Lakers fans think they all that when they holding onto the 8th spot

I'd like to donate an are and an 're to this post. I'm all out of question marks and capital I's or I'd donate those as well. Hopefully another kind soul comes along with a surplus of those.

In these troubling times of economic despair and a national war on terror, it would not be prudent to squander our precious "are"s and "''re"s and punctuation willy nilly. At this point we should just encourage everyone to repurpose all the surplus "lol"'s that have been abandoned along the roadsides.

I haven't a clue what we'd repurpose "lol"s into, so maybe I should just stfu

LIFT WHAT!?!??!

Kobe has much better basketball skills, so if I was building a team I'd go with Kobe. Lebron is just athletic. His shot has not improved to all-star level like other scoring small forwards( Durant, Anthony). He just plays like a full-back and barrels into the lane and tries a lay up.

Absolutely disagree. There is nobody who can play all 5 positions at any time like Lebron. You haven't watched too much basketball this year obviously because his FG and 3PT FG percentage is the highest its ever been. He has a higher FG percentage than Durant AND a higher FG AND 3pt percentage than Anthony. Lebron has

A. A better FG percentage than Kobe for both this season and their respective careers.

B. A better 3pt FG percentage than Kobe and is EQUAL to Kobe's 3pt percentage throughout their respective careers.

C. A better Assist/Turnover ratio than Kobe both this season and throughout their respective careers.

try backing a false fact with some real facts next time

facts courtesy of basketball-Reference.com

I would take Lebron for sure. He is simply too overpowering and athletic. Kobe has a lot of heart when he plays but Lebron's intensity and maturity is making him super scary. Has he even peaked yet?

First of all, I'm sorry I did not make it clear. I would rather have Kobe at SG then have Lebron at SF. I am not comparing the two, but o well.

A) Yes, while shooting 130 times less from range, probably layups that he bulldozed for.
B) Lebron has shot 1/3 less threes than Kobe has. Generally most of the time, percentages go down the more times a shot is attempted. That's why there are shot attempt minimums for league leaders in percentages. If you look at Calderon who is currently leading 3pt percentage, he has shot 200 less than Kobe. But, he has the higher percentage. Percentages can't be everything. Over a career, Kobe has attempted 1,800 more three pointers.

C) Lebron's Turnover Ratio is 11.1 this season and Kobe is 10.6. So this means LeBron's a better pg? I don't understand this stat being relevant here considering neither are only point guards.

Now back to shooting at small forward level. Durant has a greater 3pt fg, but lower overall fg because Durant doesn't push people out of the way for layups/dunks. Durant has a better Scoring efficiency. But in reality, we both have our minds set and we can sit here for hours picking and choosing stats against certain players and excluding others. So I declare it a wash, because I think we both have better things to do.

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Bleh, Lebron is easily the best player in the game today, but I'm tired of this "all five positions" crap, no he can't, and nobody ever really could either. You think Lebron would even think about bodying up Howard or Duncan or Bynum all game? And yeah for short spurts he took Rose out of his rhythm, but a whole series against Paul or Westrbrook or the like? He'd get run into the ground. It's just silly, that's why he has a team(and a pretty darn good one), because nobody can do it all on their own.

And this thread kind of reminds me of the alltime team thread, it's just so tough to place active players for "greatness", they're not done yet.

your mom is "greatness"

Yes people Lebron is the best right now. Yes the level of competition and the way the game has changed allows him to play all 5 positions, but he is no Magic who could play all positions in a more physical era.

Side note. If I could start a franchise with Kobe in his prime or Lebron in his, I would choose Kobe. Kobe is tougher mentally and can do everything if he wants.

Yadda yadda yadda. I'm so tired of this bupkis, it was a physical era. The players back then weren't half as skilled as they are now, so of course they had to grind more. Today's talent is superior to 70's, 80's, and even the 90's. Don't believe me? Look at the Dream team's opponents, combined they only had 7 foreign NBA caliber playing on other national teams. 1 of those guys only played, something like 10 minutes in the NBA. Now look at the other countries teams, they are filled with NBA caliber talent. What does that mean? It means everyone is better and you had better be the best of the best to be the NBA, and Lebron is torching everyone else in the conversation.