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Poll on Game Change - Over extension Tax

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253111.12 in reply to 253111.11
Date: 1/1/2014 5:36:15 PM
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Thanks for the poll. I tried to go through the help thread and find something of substance regarding the impact of purchased players and their decline/increase in salary. Any chance we can get a thread on this tax ine the "read this" or "game rules" or "important threads" thread?


Well I dont have those type of powers and I believe that the market is currently so dynamic that the possible impacts to it will quickly change.

My gut feel is that potential trainees and developing trainees (around 22 years of age) will sell for a considerable amount more than previous

That older developed players will drop in value, but over time the market will recover a little and they will regain some of this drop in value

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253111.13 in reply to 253111.12
Date: 1/1/2014 6:23:18 PM
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Well when I first heard about this tax, I freaked out to be honest. I did not understand it's purpose, and I don't understand fully not even know. However, I can say this. My view is that it will not change much, nonetheless it is one small step towards making this game better.

A very small percentage of teams will go bankrupt, another percentage of smart-ass managers will just buy some center and train him in primaries and get rid of this tax. However, most of the decent managers are not even affected at all by this. It's even better for the guys that tank(this is just my opinion), because they will be forced to train 2-3 guys and keep them, which is actually a much better strategy than just tanking stupidly and then buying a whole new team.

I'm enthusiastic to see how it will affect us in the long run, and I'm interested to hear more about what the devs prepared for us, and I will keep the conclusion. It is not an immediate improvement, but I hope it's just a small piece of a bigger pie, and I'm looking forward towards seeing what's next

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253111.14 in reply to 253111.1
Date: 1/2/2014 5:29:18 AM
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On the Dutch forum ,we have the same poll,we can only vote YES or NO
And the results for now are very different ,and I think that's pretty weird:)We have 200 managers.
I don't think it will change much,because we have maybe 25 managers who are active on the Dutch forum.
I just wanted to share this:

YES 13
56,5%

NO 10
43,5%



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253111.15 in reply to 253111.14
Date: 1/2/2014 5:58:09 AM
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YES 13
56,5%

NO 10
43,5%



Plus 1 for sharing.

Is that 53% in favour of the change.

Maybe part the reason for the difference is that we had a weeks worth of debating prior to the poll being started



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253111.16 in reply to 253111.15
Date: 1/2/2014 6:06:30 AM
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Is that 53% in favour of the change. Yes...

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253111.17 in reply to 253111.16
Date: 1/2/2014 6:13:19 AM
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Is that 53% in favour of the change. Yes...



Only 23 Managers voted.

Maybe if there hadnt been much discussion prior to the vote, a bit of hysteria might have contributed to the high no vote.

23 is a relatively small number so a bit of hysteria from the doomsdayers may have spread a little

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253111.18 in reply to 253111.17
Date: 1/2/2014 7:01:58 AM
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Iam not a doomsdayer:) I love training players since I started this game in season 17,and for the first time my own draftplayer has reached U21,and that''s great!But still I voted NO because I think that everyone should play this game like he/she want,if a manager has the money to buy himself a winning team,why you have to punisch them with a tax.But hey,,, thats just my thought

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253111.19 in reply to 253111.18
Date: 1/2/2014 7:14:45 AM
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Iam not a doomsdayer:) I love training players since I started this game in season 17,and for the first time my own draftplayer has reached U21,and that''s great!But still I voted NO because I think that everyone should play this game like he/she want,if a manager has the money to buy himself a winning team,why you have to punisch them with a tax.But hey,,, thats just my thought B)



Congrats on getting one of your own drafted trainees to your Countrys U21s team

Great work

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253111.20 in reply to 253111.13
Date: 1/2/2014 8:21:20 AM
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Well when I first heard about this tax, I freaked out to be honest. I did not understand it's purpose, and I don't understand fully not even know. However, I can say this. My view is that it will not change much, nonetheless it is one small step towards making this game better.

This tax solve some problems a lot of you guys are not even aware of. In bigger countries you had to lose money in order to win the championship. Now the tax gives you the incentive to train more and overspend less. Champinoship runs have turned into who can spend more, preceded by season or two of saving, making it basically a mini B3.

Look at my league. Maybe I'm an exception because I was tanking last season, but I'm not the only one with 600k+ roster - there are two others with such huge salaries for D.II. One of them is not training much, so his training exemption is probably very small and he has to pay overextension tax. When he figures out he bought too many salaries at once, he will probably sell some of those players in order to avoid losing money.

So you can afford to spend a lot in order to win championship only if your training exemption is big enough. Which means making your team better only with transfer list help isn't an option anymore. Remember we voiced our displeasure several times about how a well-trained player at 26 years costs the same as a 18y old draftee? Well that won't be the case anymore. Less teams will be able to afford those 26y olds and will rather spend a bit more time training, which will balance things out a bit.

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253111.21 in reply to 253111.20
Date: 1/2/2014 9:48:25 AM
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You see I for example overspend this season a bit, but it's not because I want to win league desperately, I actually wanted to play all kinds of different tactics, because I thought it would be useful with introduction of GDP and all, but know with introduction of this tax I am thinking more about coming back to buying PG with JS lvl 4 and OD lvl 20 with 30K salary and play LI in every game and save money instead of be in the minus and play all kind of tactics.

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253111.22 in reply to 253111.21
Date: 1/2/2014 9:53:49 AM
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I'm sorry to say this, but I guess you are a bit of collateral damage. I don't think there are more than 0.1% of people like you who like to overspend in order to play different tactics. Why don't you buy 22-23y old players who don't have such big salary, spend one or two seasons of training them to tailor your needs and then strart exploring new tactics?

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