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From: Hunterz

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Date: 5/13/2014 3:27:21 AM
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Due to the elastic effect JR would have dropped faster then JS and would have reached atrocious at about the same time still.
Are you sure about that?
Yes, 100% sure.


I know we aren't to link to TL players but I want clarification so I'm breaking a rule. If elastic effect works negatively (which I dont doubt) then how does this skillset happen? [player=xxx] OD is 7 levels higher than any other skill and as you can see his recent decreases were in HN and PA, not OD. If what you say is 100% correct then a players highest skill would be the one declining to keep all skills as equal as possible.

Obviously this isnt JR but either the negative elastic effect is not 100% or you can't be 100% sure in your previous post because this disproves it. Clarification please.

Last edited by Manon at 5/13/2014 5:22:15 AM

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Date: 5/13/2014 8:48:32 AM
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how is this a badly trained player, i just dont understand how it would the trainers fault, how could they have prevented this?

From: Hunterz

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Date: 5/13/2014 3:18:05 PM
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Thanks Manon. makes more sense now.
I guess I was caught on the fact yoy said they would reach atrocious at the same time and with that triple drop example the possibility of there being a few skill level differences remains but the length of time for that difference to exist is likely very short lived.

sorry again about the link but it perfectly illustrated my confusion.

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Date: 5/13/2014 5:37:25 PM
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This my opinion not fact.

Some managers like to boost certain skills to run a certain tactics, which also creates a lot selling price with this certain player. When the player is unknown in how to be used among the peers of bb just among a few that will know.

Its not a flaw or error per say. It a inside things among a few that know what they are looking at.. Is it bad player, yes at same time. He was made for a certain tactic in mind for a certain team. So he not really a bad unless you know what your looking at.

To prevent this.?? You really cant. Its more than one way to build a player and not all teams are built to play the same tactic.

Its a lot players on the market that I see . That I don't know what they are made for in tactics, these types of player bring a certain team balance. Me personally I fire these kinds of players that I create in such a fashion. Some things are just best left unknown.

Yes some are just balloon players in skills for $$ and bad for your team. But if you know how to use the players its a good thing. Me personally I would not buy him. Because im not 100% sure how he is used. Could have been a defensive player. Ehh

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 5/13/2014 5:40:32 PM

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258700.19 in reply to 258700.6
Date: 5/14/2014 1:37:08 PM
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They are both important. Imagine a player with phenomenal JS but average JR (unfortunately those badly trained players exist). He will demand the ball to shoot every possesion but he will be pretty inefective from long range.



welcome to the world of dwayne wade and lebron james. Ok lebron can knock down some threes, but he is not exactly a prominent 3pt shooter

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Date: 5/16/2014 9:08:40 AM
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They are both important. Imagine a player with phenomenal JS but average JR (unfortunately those badly trained players exist). He will demand the ball to shoot every possesion but he will be pretty inefective from long range. :)


Not in this game. JS is considerably more important than JR here. JR is easily the least important skill for big men and it's the least important guard skill for perimeter players IMO. Especially in a game that still favors those that play inside tactics that won't shoot many 3 pointers.

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Date: 5/18/2014 6:39:30 AM
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orld of dwayne wade and lebron james. Ok lebron can knock down some threes, but he is not exactly a prominent 3pt shooter


In Lebrons case, it is JS which is ~15. His JR is Legendary for sure. :) His Jump Shot is not consistant, but it is not getting worse with distance. And his driving is around Legendary+++ or so :D
Wade, of course, has lower JR :)

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Date: 5/18/2014 7:10:44 AM
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I'm not sure if you intended it as a joke:)

However, lebron definitely hasn't got legendary JR. In his first 10 seasons he has 1136/3332 3PM, and he shot a decent 34.09%
Reggie Miller, for instance, has shot 1596/3950 at 40.4% in his first 10 seasons
Ray Allen has shot 2121/5372 at 39.48%
These are legendary

Wade attempts under one 3 pt shot per game, I hope you don't believe he is anything close to a 3pt shooter:D However, I'm not saying lebron doesn't shoot threes with a good percentage, but he is far from legendary

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