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I been div#3 before, this is not my 1st team. I had another team worth 150 million in reserves , So yes it about economics. It was cake walk then. Its still a cake walk now in IMO. I just got bored with BB only things keeping me here again is fooling around these tactics none use and trying to get them to work.. Its pretty fun this way than the other way. If I win or lose don't matter now for I have already one it.

Not to be rude or anything, I make more than you a game being one league under you even if was to be in div 3 today I would still make more not to sound arrogant or spiteful.. Why , because your not listening to anything im saying. Listen , the more seats, the more money!!. As far as which one is better in your example above, that depends which one is paid for 1st ticket price and all that don't really matter directly in what you get. Its a lot factors to play here to make it matter.. If your in div 3 with 14k seats that's still very low. should be done with area seats while in div 3, you should not have do any seats while in div 2. Its not cost effective to do seats in every league you go too., Its losing money.

Building bleacher alone is not healthy period, having a good arena is based good ratio of seats in all areas of arena. The faster you do this the money you make period on BB. Its a simple concept of make 100 cakes for less and sell 100 cake for more profit rather than make 25 cakes and do this 4 times and make less profit. Because you have buy the ingredents each time, three 25 times.

Again please understand it doesn't matter directly if your in level 4 and not selling seats out. It still more money than what you get in div 4 which increase every level of play you go to create arena income( because you don't have to do seat any more, they paid for or pay for themselves ). You can build them and pay them easier in div4 , than div 3 and etc. If build in div 2 , 1.5 million in seats you wont get your money worth for very long time, if ever.. To many other things going on, arena shouldn't not be on the to do list.

My team this season so far in come
Total: $ 259 229
Typical Weekly Net Income: $ 133 347

At one point in another league I was getting/making 280K and bringing in 150k.


So in 7-11 games or less I made over 1 million. So in your league I would make 1 million+ in about 5-7 games give or take. Why because I have the seats, it doesn't matter if sell them all out or I win or lose I will always profit more. Its hard to get every factor in your favor on BB to sell out in seats so sometime I will make less . As long it correct in ratios more than the foe had made for his arena is all that matter. Its long term economics.

Winning increase people to come to games yes, How much I do not know. There for I'm not going to gamble on that scenario to many factors playing that hand. Im going go for what I know and I know I can still get a few extra fans if I build the seats in correct ratios regardless. !100-500$ extra in fans in a 3500 empty seats arena is still good profit. Because the next man don't have those seats nor the right ratios. So he doesn't get that profit. Theres a seat cap on Bb, also seats are damn well very expensive and its so many factors to decide that Like seat ratios., So its all fair game.>> "Minimize cost early to maximize profit late"<tip

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 2/10/2015 1:04:13 AM

I understand your rationalizing cost analysis for the purchase of seats but you are leaving out the benefits of more seats. The more seats you have the lower you can set your prices. Lower prices attract a larger percentage of the population, it becomes affordable for lower income families.

Say you have a moderate fan survey. You have 1000 bleachers priced at 10 bucks each. 900 people attend the game at that price. You make 9000 bucks. However, 1150 fans would have been willing to pay 9 bucks for those seats. You would have made 1350 dollars more with more cheaper seats. These are just small simple numbers but easy to see the concept. BB absolutely works this way. I have a fairly well built arena. I wish I had built more lower tier and fewer bleachers but it is a pretty nice arena. I pulled in 375k my last home game and 372k the game prior. I would venture to say this is near the top in the division I play.

It cost millions to get my arena to where it is and it doesn't ever pay out dollar for dollar, but what it does do is allow me to have a much higher operating budget on a week to week basis. I have one of the larger payrolls in my league but I am still making decent coin weekly not including the cup.

Lower tier seats are less affected by a recent loss or a ding to your survey than bleachers. A larger arena with lower prices make the attendance swings more moderate on a week to week basis than a small high cost arena. A larger arena just makes day to day, week to week operations more manageable and gives you a financial advantage when you are truly competing.

These are my thoughts and they are based off experience. If you don't invest more in arena, eventually you are throwing your money away. Good luck in which ever course you take.

Last edited by Yuck at 2/10/2015 3:19:26 AM

I understand your rationalizing cost analysis for the purchase of seats but you are leaving out the benefits of more seats. The more seats you have the lower you can set your prices. Lower prices attract a larger percentage of the population, it becomes affordable for lower income families.

Your arena is one of the ones I'm aiming to build mine like actually.

No, my fan survey is terrible. I drew the best team for my TV games (1 ball). 10 wins and making it to the sweet 16 in the US Tourney got me a ball and a half for last season success and if I don't beat my rival tonight that's 1 ball too. Transfers is at 2 balls. Hopefully my better (and cheaper) PR staff can help that.

All that said, at any point it gets ineffective cost-wise if you continue building seats. My plan is to build more Courtside and Lower seats with the money I have sitting around, but I can't right causethe seats I have aren't selling. Three seasons since expanding my Lower Tier and I'm still paying them off. Everyone else my not expect to get paid back dollar for for their investment, but they are trying to race to NBBA with no foundation. I will have an arena optimized for my level (hopefully DII) and a pile of money I can send on young trained players that I can find as I move along. I'd rather have 3 million in the bank then to have the "potential" to carry a higher wage build, but that's just my preference I guess.

My 15k arena currently is 9th in overall size in my league but 6th in LT+CS+LB.

Sounds like some bad luck. I understand your points. Just thought I would share my perspective if you hadn't taken a look down that path. Good luck man, its bound to get better.

Welp, decided to scale back to the salary floor and just train and demote then to lose money for 14 weeks.

Also, sold Clausi and he got injured in his first minute with his new team. I would say I made the right decision.