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268232.13 in reply to 268232.12
Date: 3/17/2015 6:22:16 PM
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No no, keep suggesting what others should do according to you. We're all ears.

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268232.17 in reply to 268232.14
Date: 3/18/2015 10:43:20 AM
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People in my league (with top teams) hate ISOs. Apparently when there is no clear mismatch and you go against very good defenses (for your level of offense) the shot selection is not as 'reasonable' as in other tactics. That is also due to the fact that it's unlikely to hope for a Guard set at PF/C to be the focus of the offense in Inside ISO (which you can in patient and it is therefore easier to create mismatches).

I will try to see how it works compared to patient before the end of the season (I know Patient hasn't worked that well for me lately, hopefully outside ISO will be better, my best scorer has very high passing too, so that might work better for him)

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268232.18 in reply to 268232.17
Date: 3/18/2015 1:14:22 PM
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In my last game, I chose Outside Iso and my opponent chose 3-2 Zone. From what I can tell, once my outside player got passed his man and ran into the inside player he dished the ball to either the Center or the PF and they took the fairly open shot. My PF is not a great scorer and started the game 6 for 6. My Center took the first 3 shots of the game and he has no outside shooting at all. From what I saw, every shot came off a pass from an outside shooter.

The biggest downside I see to Patient is that it focuses the offense on one guy and if that one guy is not having a good game against the defense, your team is in for a long night as he just continues to fire away and hope something goes in.

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268232.19 in reply to 268232.18
Date: 3/18/2015 5:13:43 PM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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Yeah ISO can have a much more even shot distribution if you have good passing on the iso player.

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268232.20 in reply to 268232.19
Date: 3/18/2015 5:37:47 PM
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Wait, is it only one player who is the focus of the offense or can be more than one?

I also have another question for you guys. Let's say my opponent has 54OD at PG-SF spots (19-19-16) and my guards have all 14-16 Passing and 15-17 Driving at best, would you say that's enough to create the offense? Unfortunately there is so much defense in my D2 league (I've seen Wondrous OD ratings with 1-3-1...) that every time one of the other top teams tries II or OI they are unhappy with the shot distribution

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268232.21 in reply to 268232.20
Date: 3/18/2015 6:14:16 PM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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I havent done much in depth play by play analysis so I can't say how many players are focussed on in what situations. When I have more time I hope to do that.

Against that high defense I think most offenses have trouble. Without knowing the rest of the skills/players/opponent it's hard to say how Iso performs compared to other offenses.

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268232.22 in reply to 268232.21
Date: 3/18/2015 6:35:08 PM
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Against that high defense I think most offenses have trouble.
That's true but flow is a team's rating not individual only, so provided that you have decent passing spread out among your players, you might have a decent and 'reasonable' shot distribution in LI/PTB/Princeton pretty much any 'focused' tactic. In ISOs, if I'm understanding correctly, if the go-to guy can't overpower his defender you're toast, much like in Patient, except in Patient the designated scorer will just try to score and in ISOs he can also create for others (so he has more options).

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