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28467.13 in reply to 28467.12
Date: 5/10/2008 2:23:02 PM
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The exclusion is not being done in an arbitrary way. The fact that it is being done when it not necessary, and there is a reasonable and rational alternative which is used in the real world (and now the BBB) makes it an arbitrary choice.

Let me give you an analogy. You have a table that seats 8, and plenty of food. You have 10 people to serve. One solution is to serve them in two sittings. But instead you decide to serve only 8. The fact that you chose the 2 excluded in a non-arbitrary way (eg the two who were most overweight), does not mean that your original solution was not an arbitrary one.

The fact that the percentage of excluded teams is fairly constant has nothing to do with a preliminary round being a patchwork solution. It sounds like you don't understand what "patchwork solution" means.

While the percentage of excluded teams does converge to 25%, it increases as the number of divisions increase. It is 20% in a 2-division country, and 23.8%, 24.7%, and and 24.9% in 3-, 4-, and 5-division countries respectively. (This has nothing to do with a patchwork solution of course).

The USA and other 5-division countries already have a field of 4096 teams and take the full season. The preliminary round consisting of 2720 teams from the 5th division would be played on the opening Thursday of the season.

The tournament would be enhanced by universal participation where advancement is determined only on the merit of winning your previous cup round - not your league record from the previous year. While, it would not matter much to teams in the upper divisions - who would simply face slightly more competitive teams, it would not harm them or be a wasted week.

It would be better to cut off the cup at a full five divisions, and have a separate cup for a 6th division.

That you are fine with tournament participate not being availabe to every single team is simply a matter of your personal opinion. It has little to do with the actual merits.

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28467.15 in reply to 28467.14
Date: 5/11/2008 3:40:02 PM
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Personally, I would move the ASG to Saturday so that it falls between the end of interconference play and the start of the 2nd round of intraconference play, and eliminate the double cup round. In countries with 5 divisions, I would move the cup final to the Sunday following the last regular season game. Since only two teams would be involved, this would greatly reduce the confusion that occurs at the ASG.

A 6th division already exists in Spain and Italy (but it is only twice the size of the 5th division).

As I proposed earlier, I don't think that any 6th division teams should participate in the cup. Instead, teams would play in a 6th division cup, which might also serve as a qualifier to the national cup the following season. For example, the 1024 teams that advance 3 rounds might qualify, regardless whether or not they promote to D.V.



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28467.17 in reply to 28467.15
Date: 5/11/2008 5:59:45 PM
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In countries with 5 divisions, I would move the cup final to the Sunday following the last regular season game


Which is pretty cool because, there is already an game ;) And i don't like the cup betwenn PlayOff games, because 3 serious do or die games(ok if you take it seriously there are 2, but first game of league final is a do or die for me) in a week are pretty hard.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 5/11/2008 6:00:02 PM