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No biggie if your team is Canadian no!

Look, stop with this garbage right now. Accusing the person you're debating of being biased from the start isn't a great way to have rational debate. I find it insulting, frankly. Stick to the facts, please, and stop claiming that the users with later league games can't argue this point fairly.

Anyway, you have a valid point, but I don't think it's a big deal. There is probably a way to make it better, but I'm not sure it's worth the BB's effort.

BTW, how do you propose solving the reverse issue? If I'm not mistaken, the Colombian team involved in the first B3 game had only 4.5 hours between the end of the their league game and their B3 game. That's a pretty severe disadvantage if they have to adjust their strategy because of injury or unexpected minutes distribution in their league game.

hey - calm down - i think you've interpreted my sarcasm slightly too seriously.

I made a proposal that 1 season games could be scheduled to start as they are now 1st in the East finishing with those in the West. Then the next season they could be scheduled with games in the West starting first finishing over here in the East.

I only reacted as it seems BB-Charles misinterpreted my post. You have understood my point and so lets just await to see what others think.

As I will state once more if you know you are playing me in this competition you can watch my Sat game (before setting your Saturday orders) and then you can watch my Tues game (again before setting your orders) You will know my minutes and game effort. I will know only afterwards.

The other point is that some games as you point out have one update between the league and BB3 game and others have 2 (dont know if anyone doesnt have an update). This also gives HUGE advantages to teams in the West.. if they TIE on the league game before at 10 it may be possible to play a BB3 game at lvl 12-13. A team from Asia or Australasia will have a minimum of 1 update where there enthusiasm would drop quickly back and NEVER have the ability to play with enthusiasm at this level.

I hope there is a solution to ensure that a competition of this nature can be played out on a level playing field...

I hope i dont read that you think Asian teams will have the advantage in their domestic cups as those games are much closer to the BB3 games.... this is an advantage but not one I would wish to trade or gain.

Last edited by Superfly Guy at 5/14/2008 12:01:56 PM

hm.
some prety good points in all these posts.

It seems like it might be a solution, and an easy on I believe, to have these international tournament games played without enthousiasm.
(set enthousiasm to 7 for each team for the duration of this game, no matter their real enthousiasm at that time).

This way it is not important to know if a team TIEed or not, and every team gives his best for the game because no team wants to look silly in front of the world.

These games in arcade mode (like the PL games) would be even better, since no matter the injuries, each team can field it's best players in these games, and that's what this tournament wants to do right? Show who's got the best team in BB...

Mhh but the game lost their tactical deep, i would like it more when the minutes from the player don't count for training, so the BBB teams always play with their strongest team for their strategy, and if we do that we could say that the roster should stand before the league game but i don't thing a single tie before would change so much in the tactic from the opponent and ct in the normal season ain't so often.

they can't have the roster stand before the league game. If someone gets injured in the league game it would be very bad not to be able to substitute that player...

If you want to talk about the original topic, about delaying enthusiasm for B3 games, fine.

We don't need another complaint thread about B3 in general.

yeah thats right ;)

im talking league games...

so all the games on Tuesday for example.. mine completes hours before Brazils starts...he therefore can see have i played my full team (and can add to mins from Sats game) and see my effort... he can then base his selection on this.

he can do that by watching your game live... not showing the effort until maybe a few days after the match, I don't mind. But delaying the boxscore etc - that would have a huge impact on ALL players in the game for the sake of very, very few. And, as I think I pointed out, it wouldn't achieve anything, because your opponent still can watch your game live....

Ok - so delay box scores isnt a viable option..

So how can it be made that each team has an identical amount of updates after there league game on Tues and their BB3 game?

Playing away with lvl10-11 enthusiasm vs a home team who's managed to keep lvl 12-13 (only by virtue of where they are in the BB world gepgraphically) seems an unfair advantage.

It seems to me that a BB would have to do this manually for the affected teams - although this could get complicated adjusting enthusiasm up for the BBB game and then down for the cup game to ensure fairness for the cup opponent. Even though this appears to be really complicated or tedious, I agree that not to do so would provide too strong of an advantage to one team.

I guess also come the latter stages this might dawn on some of the best European teams if they then get drawn against a US/Canadian/Brazilian opponent.

i play my best team in bbb anyway and i will use playoff crunch time anyway.
everybody is welcome to know.